[upbeat music] [radio effects] The Noon Hour of Madness and Mayhem, the podcast.
Victor, you know how Facebook is just full of AI-generated news that these boomers are falling for?
Oh yeah, dude, I saw tons of it this morning, and it's just starting to drive me nuts, dude, 'cause nobody looks up any of it to see if it's real.
There was a whole headline. You know that pop singer we talked about? I forgot how you pronounce her name. But she's AI generated.
Yeah. Yeah.
She's not real. She has millions of, uh, streams on Spotify.
Yeah, did, did she get signed to a major label deal? There was one I saw over the weekend that got signed to a $3 million deal, and the girl who makes the songs, she just uses Suno, just punches in a prompt, and the song is done.
Wow.
Like, not even putting in anything after the fact or, like, re-recording. Just churning it out. Bam, $3 million deal. Boy, if I was, uh, a little more energetic yesterday, what do you think I would've been doing all afternoon?
[laughs]
That's right, creating a new band.
All of a sudden, the Reptilions dropped, uh, you know, four new albums [laughs] in the span-
Yeah
... of a day.
But I tell you what, I, I wouldn't be making a rock band. I would be making a pop artist or a country artist.
Super easy to do so.
Yeah, yeah. You just come up with... Like, we've talked about Daft Punk on the air before. You know, you need, like, one line of lyrics. That's all you need. << Around the world, around the world, around the world, aro- >> You don't have to put in any effort into pop music or, uh, dance music. Just some catchy line. << Don't step on my toes. Don't step on my toes. Don't step on my toes when we're dancing. >> There you go, big hits. [laughs]
Perfect.
Yeah, no effort. $3 million bucks, dude. The music industry is doomed.
Well, this, this particular girl that we previously talked about, there was this, what I assume is ChatGPT-generated news, because, uh, it said that she made b- the Billboard 200.
Okay, it might be the same artist I was, uh, looking at.
But I was l- seeing the headline, and they misspelled radio. It just said, "Radi."
[laughs]
There was no O at the end of it.
Well, I bet- better take a look and see if we need to start putting some of that stuff on, uh, Z103, 'cause if it's what people wanna hear, it's what they wanna hear. You, you know, there's gonna be a market for people that wanna hear music made by real humans, but the average music listener, they don't care. They're, they're not like real into the artist. They're not super fans. They just want something that sounds good. So if it's-
But there are a lot of people out there, like you just mentioned, that are really loud about their opinion against AI.
Yeah.
Like, the entire comment section, Shaq has been going nonstop with the whole Sora thing.
[laughs]
He, he has been, he's been married to Marilyn Monroe in multiple videos on Sora.
[laughs]
And then he also personally won the World Series for the Dodgers when he started pitching for them in his... It's all funny looking 'cause h- him in a Dodgers uniform, the hat's backwards-
[laughs]
... and he's pitching the wrong way, and it's... And, and all the comments are hi- people saying, "Stop with the AI, Shaq," yelling at him.
Well, dude, Peaches, back when I was younger, you had the same thing happening with, uh, like, electronic drums and electronic music in general. Like, "This isn't real music. This isn't real music." And now, nobody cares about that. If you're using electronic instruments, ah, I give it a year before most people don't care about AI music and... I watched a, uh, Moist Critikal video about the, the one girl. I forget what her name is, but he, he's predicting like me, probably within a year, most of the, uh, top tracks are gonna be AI, and pop and country artists are just gonna be decimated by this. The only thing I don't know i- what are they gonna do during a live show? You know, are they just not gonna tour or do they just put up a screen? Are they gonna do holograms?
It'll probably be like one of those movie theater showings where they just [laughs], you know-
Oh, yeah. You just-
... you go to the movie theater and watch that.
Probably. And it'll save the music industry so much money 'cause if all you have to do is play a movie, you know, think about all of the staff required to do an arena show.
Yeah, absolutely.
You know? I mean, that's... There's so many hundreds of people involved.
I mean, every... I- i- Idaho Falls felt like it was all employed to get the Mountain America center ready for the tool show.
Oh, yeah.
I feel like everyone we knew was working that tool show for some reason.
Dude, everybody [laughs]... You're right. Everybody was. We talked to tons of people working that show. They had what, 20 trucks?
Yeah.
20 trucks of gear. Why, why do that when you can send over a movie reel to Edwards, call it good. They put it in, you know, six theaters. Here it is, opening day. Tickets will be cheaper than going to a live show. I mean, you know I'm a fan of live music. I make music myself, but when you can churn out a song in 10 seconds
[laughs], the music industry is... They're gonna be done with dealing with artists.
Well, I, uh... The reason why I brought this up is because in r/Metalcore, somebody brought up a whole q- or somebody brought up a question asking, "Any massive list of AI bands that I can just tell Spotify to ignore?"
Oh yeah, yeah. Um-
And luckily enough, the one... The top comment is a guy listing off a whole bunch of them.
Oh, did he finally? 'Cause I, I don't know if you were with me last week but-
It was during the Noon Hour last week. We talked about this, where everyone was like, "Oh, don't do... No, we're not posting this," and-
Yeah
... something like that.
It's like, just post them.
Yeah.
Just... You know, it's just somebody asking a simple question. We would like to know who the AI artists are. We listened to that one that sounded kind of like, you know, Bad Omens, Dayseeker, and I was like-
Bleeding Verse, that's the big one.
Bleeding Verse.
Well-
And clearly those guys [laughs], tho- that fake band [laughs] is very popular, and it sounds just as good as most of the other stuff out there.
I found one called Angel of Anarchy, but most of these opti- most of these songs are explicit.
Okay.
Except for... This one's not labeled.
Oh.
So it's My Hero. I don't know if it's the Foo Fighters cover-
O- all right, let's find out
... or what, but yeah, these are very... Like, there's no picture of the band. It shows like some AI-generated image of some dude with, uh, with angel wings, and he's playing the piano in the clouds. So we'll see how this turns out. [laughs]
Okay. Sounds bad.
But this, this artist has 132,000 monthly listeners.
[laughs]
[laughs] Their biggest song has three million streams.
Three million streams.
It's called Body Bag.
Body Bag.
That one's explicit-
Okay
... so I'm not playing that one. I'm playing this one that has 284,000 streams, My Hero.
Okay.
Thought it was too good for me. Truth is, I was just too close to see.
Sounds like all the other crap coming out.
It sounds like, uh, From Ashes to New.
Yeah, it's got a little bit of that going on.
A little bit of Hollywood Undead beat to it.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Dude, if we put that in rotation,
I would say that pretty much all of our listeners wouldn't blink.
Maybe this will push bands not to follow the octane core formula.
Maybe. You're gonna have to be putting out something so unique to get attention as a human band. Like, I think Venn Nova's doing a good job, and they seem to be blowing up pretty good. But AI's scraping everything. You can, you can ask it to make gent-
I think-
You can ask it to make anything.
Pretty soon we'll have to have these rules of this is AI, y- y- rules of AI, limiting AI, all of that stuff.
But if there's consumer demand for it, do you think anybody's gonna care?
Well, they're gonna have to alienate it, segregate it-
Do you think the government's gonna care?
Ya know, put AI generated channels maybe.
Maybe.
I, I can guarantee, I would say within the next year, maybe f- four years, uh, Sirius XM's gonna be like, "By the way, if you guys like AI metal, AI anything, we have our new AI channel." And it, there's gonna be a big outrage, but people are still gonna check it out.
Oh, they absolutely would. And most of 'em would like it, if that, ya know, what are they called? Bleeding-
Bleeding Verse.
Bleeding Verse.
This one I just played for you is Angel of Anarchy.
Yeah. Bleeding Verse had like 500,000 monthly listeners.
Oh, yeah.
And that's a, a lot for a rock band at this point, unless you're like Ghost or Bring Me The Horizon. Ya know, it, it's gonna get, uh ... I, I bet we're playing a AI hit within a year, even on Kaybear. I could put one in right now and nobody would notice.
I like this one. What is the point of even being in a band if you don't play music? Not like there's money in metal.
[laughs] That's why I said I would make pop and country music.
[laughs]
I ain't gonna make rock and metal, even though that's what I would like to listen to. No, I wanna make the big bucks with my Suno bands. Dude, I'm, I'm gonna get on it. How much is the pres- or subscription to Suno to where you can make full length songs?
I don't know. It's cheap enough to earn a, yourself a three million dollar contract, like you mentioned.
Yeah. She doesn't do anything. You know, and I probably know how to use ChatGPT to make prompts better than she would. So ... I, I shouldn't say that. I don't know the girl, but I bet I could-
Yeah, take that, lady
... I bet I could churn out some pretty awesome songs. You fix up the lyrics a little bit. Dude. Some, you know, upload to Spotify and all the other streaming platforms. Done, dude. Make some money. I, I ... Like I said, local bands, just give up. I'm, I'm giving up. I'm done. I've got a- I've got at least two albums worth of material that's really good, really original. Is it worth putting in the effort? No. Nobody's gonna listen to it. No. I, I give up. [instrumental music]
Well, there goes the guys from Kaybear talking about AI again.
How dare they?
How dare they push the AI agenda?
Well now-
The, the AIA.
Well now we're really pushing the agenda 'cause we're making songs, people. We made a theme song for the Noon Hour of Madness and Mayhem and it sounds like a hit song, Peaches. At least the first one you played me like 15 seconds of, and I'm like, "Yeah, sounds like a hit."
Sounds like a great, uh, periphery song.
Yeah, it's uh, it's good stuff. It's good stuff. Play it for the listeners.
Here, here's one of them. Well, 'cause when you do a song with Suno, it gives you four different options.
Yeah, and we used the free plan. We didn't get full length songs. These are just clips.
This is a prompt from ChatGPT that we generated to give us an aggressive, chaotic, progressive, jet metal theme song for the Noon Hour of Madness and Mayhem.
Welcome to the hour where logic implodes. Turn your brain to 11, let the feedback explode. Static on the wire. Yeah, we're bending time. It's madness and mayhem and it's feeling sublime.
Mind shot, mind shot, caffeine in my veins. Reality's buffering, I'm losing the rage. Preachers in the corner yelling something insane. I think he summoned thunder through the station's mainframe.
Dude, this is ... This is good. [laughs] I'm done with bands with people.
Let's go. Buttons blanked, dimension sink. A feedback loop where reason sh-
So that, that ... It cuts off there because-
Okay
... it, it only gives you a minute.
'Cause of the free plan.
Yes. So, you wanna try the other one?
Yeah, let's hear what the, the other version's really like.
Welcome to the hour where logic implodes. Turn your brain to 11-
It sounds like every Ice Nine Kills track.
[laughs]
[laughs] Okay, let's keep going.
And let the feedback explode. Static on the wire. Yeah, we're bending time. It's madness and mayhem and it's feeling sublime.
[laughs]
It sounds good.
Mind shot, mind shot, caffeine in my veins. Reality's buffering, I'm losing the rage. Preachers in the corner yelling something insane. I think he summoned thunder through the station's mainframe. Let's go. Buttons blinked, dimensions sync. A feedback loop where reason sh-
It codes my DNA. This is chaos and
So there, it cuts off there.
Dude. Dude.
Cuts off there.
I'm done.
That first one, I really liked. That first one was ... It was awesome.
Yeah, dude. Uh, like, I'm done. I am starting a new band. I'm not gonna tell anybody the name of it. I'm gonna keep it top secret.
Wait a minute. It gave us a full length. Can I download this?
Dude. Download it. Let's- Let's-
Download MP3 audio. Uh, need commercial rights. Only Pro and Premier songs are eligible for commercial use.
Oh. Okay, so we gotta pay eight bucks a month if we wanna be able to sell them on, you know, all the streaming platforms. I'm sold. Eight bucks? Eight bucks. I bet we could make some money off this stuff, Peaches.
Do you think we should play the full thing?
[laughs]
Just on the new hour? It gave us two full lengths. That's what it gave us.
Yeah.
It gave us the full length of that first one, I believe. The full length of the other one. The first one that we ... The second one that we played.
Yeah. Uh, dude, the ... I liked the first one better. If it gave us the full length-
Yeah
... we should definitely download it. Peaches' pick of the day. We got a new band for ya. They wrote a song [laughs] about the-
Yeah
... new hour of Madness and Mayhem. [laughs]
[laughs] Let me push Trivium outta the way.
[laughs] What do the other two sound like?
Uh, it's the same-
Oh, it-
It's, it's the full lengths.
It's the full lengths.
Yeah, let's look at-
Okay
... and l- let's see what the, uh ...
Welcome to the hour where logic implodes. Turn your brain to 11. Let the feedback explode. Let's get it.
Sorry for, sorry for those random, like, doo-doo. Our computer mouse is disconnecting and reconnecting the en- th- this whole time.
Yeah. We've ... We got some problems here. We're running too much power.
But this, this sounds different compared to the other one.
Well, ma- It's 'cause it's the full length, so ...
Yeah. But this sounds like the, uh, the fir- the second one that we played.
Yeah.
The most recent one.
It did.
All right. L- let's, uh, let's see if it ... Is this the right one?
This sounds different too.
Welcome to the hour where logic implodes.
This is so I. Snipes, dude.
Turn your brain to 11. Let the feedback explode.
[laughs] I. Snipes opening the case for Fain's band.
Static on the wire. Yeah, we're bending science. It's madness and mayhem and it's feeling sublime.
I don't like that it mentions Sublime.
Yeah [laughs]. I was gonna say.
[laughs]
He just put in your favorite band. [laughs]
Lights hot, might shock. Caffeine in my veins. Reality's buffering. I'm losing the range. Victor's in the corner yelling something insane. I think he summoned thunder through the station's mainframe. Let's go.
Buttons blink, dimensions sync. Our feedback loop, more reason shrinks. I try to pause, the clock it blinks. They scream, "You're late for the nation's sync." I can't slow down, can't turn to wait. We're live on air and straight in the face. This static codes my DNA. This is chaos in 4K.
Wow.
It's the new hour, the lights all fade. We're riding feedback into space. No safety net, no script to say. Just madness and mayhem, misbehave. It's drawing in, I'm losing shape. These sound waves twist, the walls vibrate. The clocks are melting on the stage.
This is live again. Yeah.
Bionics sing, the single
take.
Here we go. Watch this. We get sent songs all the time. This is better than most of the songs I get sent.
News flash, the universe called. Declined. I'm too busy shredding through the fault lines. This bass drops harder than my GPA. But who needs sleep when you've got amplifier? Electrics from heaven from a metal priest. Preaching peace through distorted bass. Bracing orbit, segue. But my mind's still live, so watch me freak.
See, that one it didn't really make a coherent sentence. It's supposed to say, "My m- but my mic's still alive so let me freak." And that-
Yeah.
There, there's a progressive breakdown right here we're about to hear too. I just wanted to m- let you know that the AI's messing up the lyrics a little bit.
[laughs] All right, all right. Well ...
Yeah, so here- here's the breakdown, it says here.
A progressive breakdown/syncopated chugs in the bridge.
[laughs] All right. Let's hear it.
One, two, static burst. Warped voice, single chorus. White noise, chaos and mayhem. Seven, eight, the floor is Lame.
Those drummers went crazy.
It's your brain on broadcast. Any questions? It's the new hour, the lights all fade. We we-
Okay [laughs].
Dude. Hey, how long's it been since we first tried Suno?
It- it's been-
Six months? A year?
Yeah, not that long. [laughs]
It's gotten so much better. So much better. If somebody sent me this song, I wouldn't guess that it was AI. Just off of hearing it. Like, it's gotten so good. Dude, I am gonna make a fake, fake artist. For sure. I'm gonna try to make some money, Peaches.
Okay.
And I don't care what anybody thinks. I know it's shameful and wrong.
Uh, you're about to get a whole bunch of people, like, trying to boycott K-Bear now.
Dude, I'm, I ... Nobody's gonna know. Nobody's gonna know till I get that three million dollar paycheck. [laughs] And then I'll be laughing all the way to the bank. Uh, no more waking up at 5:00 AM. Be sitting in my, you know, studio upstairs just farting around on ChatGPT making money. Yeah.
It's the noon hour of AI music and shenanigans.
[laughs]
I am Peaches.
I am Victor, the world's biggest fan of AI music. [laughs]
I decided to use Suno once more and I said, "Give me a song in the style of Dayseeker, Bad Omens, and Sleep Token." Then it rejected me 'cause it says it could not generate because it mentions Bad Omens. I deleted it.... but it still allowed me to use Dayseeker and Sleep Token.
Oh, I can't wait to hear this.
So I said, "Right, where, where did it go? Did I, did I lose it?"
Uh-oh. No!
Let's see here.
No!
No, I said, "I need a song about Victor Wilt who secretly at night turns into Victoria Rose, the drag queen."
[laughs]
"I need inspiration from Dayseeker, Bad Omens, Sleep Token and this one."
[laughs]
So the prompt is, "Write an emotional, cinematic, progressive rock/metal song in the style of Dayseeker, Bad Omens and Sleep Token about a man named Victor Wilt, a radio host who secretly becomes Victoria Rose a drag queen at night."
[laughs]
"The s- the song should feel powerful, ethereal and heartbreaking, balancing beauty and distortion."
Yes!
"Title suggestion, Glass and Velvet."
Oh, right, perfect. Let's hear it. [laughs]
Now we have two full-length songs here, but I believe the one is still... Is this generating? Can I hear this one? [gentle music] This is it.
Good evening. It's Victor Wilt.
[laughs]
Or maybe someone else tonight.
[upbeat music]
[laughs]
Echo fades, synth rises, kick hits slow.
Under the halogen hum the daylight fades.
I'm telling you, it voice-
It sounds exactly like Dayseeker.
It voiced [laughs] it voiced the direction.
[laughs]
It said, "Echo fades, synth rises, kick hits slow." [laughs]
[laughs] I know- I know, with the little, uh, robot voice. [laughs]
All right, here we go.
A whisper on the mirror says, "You can change." He paints the world with trembling hands. Coloring the silence, they don't understand. The radio voice dissolves too slow. The lipstick lies the final stroke. No one sees when the signal dies. The mask becomes the butterfly. He hides the roses in the rain.
All I can say is that Ice Nine Kills is screwed.
[laughs]
Every single time you put in a song on Suno it ends up sounding like a Ice Nine Kills song. [laughs]
[laughs]
Okay.
A ghost- You gotta do the big chorus.
Okay.
... sequins through his pain. They'll never see the wings he made. When night becomes his stage. Glass and velvet, light and bone. He's Victor Wilt, but she's not alone. [laughs]
[laughs] "Glass and velvet, light and bone. He's Victor Wilt, but she's not alone." [laughs]
[laughs]
"Underneath the neon glow, Victoria Rose begins to show." Here- here's the second part.
Underneath the neon glow, Victoria Rose begins to show. Every color, every tear, every note they'll never hear. She's the storm he longed to mute. The truth beneath the costume.
[laughs]
[laughs]
"She's the storm he built to bloom, the truth beneath the costume." [laughs]
[laughs] Theirs are so bad.
I, I really wanna hear the bridge because it-
Okay
... it starts to go "Mirror, mirror, split in two."
Oh, no, we gotta hear this.
"Half of man, half something new." [laughs]
[laughs] We gotta hear it, we gotta hear it. He drowns the static with a sigh. The on-air light says occupied. The city sleeps, but she awakes. In rhinestones born from his mistakes.
Oh my, oh my goodness.
She moves through fire not afraid. A masterpiece he's too shy to claim. [laughs] The crowd applauds, but never knows. The secret wilted into rose. That's pretty good.
That's awesome.
That's a pretty good line.
"The secret wilted into rose."
[laughs] That's a good line.
That is, that's a great line.
[laughs]
"She moves through fire, not afraid. A masterpiece he's too shy to claim."
[laughs]
"The crowd applauds, but never knows. The secret wilted into rose." [laughs]
[laughs] That's a good lyric.
Here's the bridge.
Mirror, mirror, split in two.
Half of man, half something new. [laughs] If they only knew the art inside. Would they love him, or just hide?
[laughs] I'm getting emotional, so I'll never get to listen to this.
[coughs]
It goes- it supposedly goes from a guitar swell to a halftime breakdown, and I really hope it does the lyrics that it s- that it says here.
I'm sorry, I can't wait. I can't wait.
This is my confession. Through mascara tears. A hymn to the person I've been all these years.
"This is my confession through mascara tears. A hymn to the person I've been to all these years." [laughs]
[laughs]
And then it goes back into the...
Glass and velvet. Yeah, that's a hit. Light and bone. He's Victor Wilt, but she's not alone. Underneath the neon glow. Victoria Rose begins to show. Every color, every tear, every note they'll never hear. She's the storm he built to bloom.
There it is.
I love how emotional this guy is about my stupid Halloween costume.
She's the truth he built to bloom. The truth beneen- beneath the costume.
[laughs]
Victoria Rose.
He was so into it.
Oh. How emotional.
[laughs]
I'm tearing up in the studio.
[laughs]
Now, are you ready... I'm hoping you're ready, 'cause I'm gonna generate one for me now.
Okay. [instrumental music plays]
I'm really hoping all of these breaks air, Victor, because we've been doing a lot of talking this, uh, noon hour of madness and mayhem. We've been doing a lot of playing around as well with this, uh, Suno AI generator when it comes to, uh, song making.
Yeah, we haven't used it in about a year or so, and holy crap has it advanced. It's so much better. Uh, I mean, it sounds pro. Like, I, I didn't think it would be this good already.
I, I gave it a prompt for me. Write a heavy aggressive gent/metalcore song about an angry afternoon radio DJ named Peaches.
All right.
You ready for, you ready for this?
All right, what song called?
I Clock in to Static and Rage.
[laughs]
[laughs] And I told it to give me inspiration from Kublai Khan, Alpha Wolf, and, uh, Polaris.
Okay.
So let's see if it actually do- matches. You ready for this one?
Mm-hmm, I can't wait 'cause I've liked every song.
I clock in to static and rage. Coffee can't cage this animal stage. 69 shadow in a soundproof dome. Bald head gleaming like a sonic boom. Turn on the mic, instant regret. Someone calls in asking, "You play Sublime yet?" No, I won't, don't even start. That band's been haunting my bleeding heart.
Did you get that part?
I, I got some of it.
Someone calls in asking, "You play Sublime yet?" No, I won't, don't even start. That band's been haunting my bleeding heart.
[laughs] That's appropriate for Peaches.
The red light's on, the fuse is lit. Every dumb question's another hit. Traffic's crawling, patience fried. I'm one more ad break from homicide.
[laughs] I'm one more break from homicide.
I'm one more ad break from homicide. [laughs]
[laughs] I heard it talk about the red light coming on. That's pretty funny. [laughs]
Loaded guns, feel the ground quake. Hair on air, let the speakers shake. 69 tower of wrath unchained. Bald head brutal, never tamed. Turn it up until the signal blazes. Feed the fury through the frequency. Sick void again, no restraint. One for DJ, your mother wants to rage.
What the heck?
[laughs]
Off!
I like this part here.
Thanksgiving's fake, I'm skipping the feast. Keep your lasagna, unleash the beast.
[laughs]
He's trashing Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving's fake, I'm skipping the feast. Keep your lasagna, unleash the beast. [laughs]
[laughs]
Because I hate lasagna too. Studio walls begin to bend. Every dumb caller's my mortal end. [laughs]
[laughs]
Walls begin to bend. Every dumb caller's my mortal end. Someone says to you, "Pick the song." Buddy, I've been doing this too long. I'm not your jukebox, I'm the song. Jokes and sarcasm, that's my form. Chug, chug, static erupts. Peach mode rising, signal corrupt. Bald head gleams like a warning flare. Anger's art and I paint on air.
I like that. Chug, chug, static erupts. Peach mode rising, signal corrupt.
[laughs]
Bald head gleams like a warning flare. Anger's art and I paint on air.
[laughs]
That's a great-
The lyrics are getting better too.
[laughs]
[laughs] Oh.
Oh, this is great. It's pretty much the same thing for the rest of the song.
Okay.
So, yeah. I just thought that was fantastic.
Yeah, dude. Victor Wilt about to make some dough.
[laughs]
I'm gonna make some money.
Yeah.
Make some money.
[laughs]
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