Ep. 92 - Emos Caused 9/11 and Other Interior Design Opinions - 10/15/2025
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Ep. 92 - Emos Caused 9/11 and Other Interior Design Opinions - 10/15/2025

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I may have went a little crazy with the, uh, late '90s, early 2000's lingo, Victor.

Oh, boy, for, uh, ALT?

Yeah. Yeah. I- I've s-

Okay, let's-

I think that's what Jade wants, somewhat.

Yeah, he does, 'cause Jade's kinda cringe when it comes to radio. You know, I- I'm not gonna get into specifics 'cause I don't wanna throw our own stations under the bus. But when Jade has his hands in things, sometimes it gets a little bit cringey. So, yeah. I wanna hear some of the lingo, and tell you if this was actually used in the '90s.

I got this ... Now, this is predominantly towards the end here. I did ... I went on this, on this website that said this was used for people who were teenagers back, or back in the early 2000's who were emo.

Okay. All right.

If that makes any sense at all.

That does make sense. And I was around plenty of emos. Emos started becoming a thing, I would say, around 2000. Like, before that, there were no emos. Times were great. Everything was cheap. [laughs] Gas was under a dollar then the emos came along.

So emos were to blame for that? [laughs]

Yes. [laughs] And then prices skyrocketed. All of a sudden, the World Trade Center got hit. [laughs]

Oh, geez. [laughs]

[laughs] It was 2001, I'm telling you. [laughs] Once that, those tight pants-

Wow.

Everyone started wearing tight pants. All of a sudden, the world got uptight. I better crack a cold one if we're gonna talk about those dark days-

There you go

... when the emos came to be. [laughs]

Now, back in the day, did they actually put "Le" in front of everything?

I don't remember that being-

See, that, that was a thing on many lists.

Like, "Le poop."

Yeah, like, "Le ALT 101," I had Jade ... I'm, I'm gonna have Jade repeat that.

Uh, yeah, I, I don't remember that. Um, not from what I recall. Now, this is also not necessarily the greatest break, 'cause I'm the king of bad memory, so, you know, "Le poop."

[laughs]

I, I don't remember that. Uh, [laughs] I, I, I know what I would call Jade, "Le something," but I'm not gonna say it.

Oh, yeah.

[laughs]

I put, "What's so amazeballs about us? I don't know, ask your mother." [laughs]

[laughs] Amazeballs. Now, okay, I remember that term, but I think if I heard someone use it in person, I would've been get- I would've been baffled. Seems like it was in a movie or something. Like, "That's amazeballs, man."

Well, I know that cowabunga is from-

That's from Ninja Turtles.

Ninja Turtles, yeah.

And that was, like, you know, late '80s, early '90s.

Right. That's even earlier than this.

Yeah.

Now, I, uh, this article went on to talk about basement shows and how, like, bands would perform for, like-

Oh, yeah

... 30 people. And so-

I, I used to go to basement shows.

I asked Chad GPT to come up with some sweepers for people who went to basement shows back in the day.

[laughs]

And it says, "Where every crowd surfer prays they don't hit the ceiling fan." [laughs]

[laughs] No, uh, the basement shows I went to, there were no ceiling fans. These were, like, unfinished basements. They were dirty.

How about this one? "It's not just good, it's off the chain."

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, right? Yeah?

Man. It's ... See, every generation's like, "This new generation's cringe, blah, blah." No, every generation is cringe.

I did this one, "So fresh, so fat, so tight, ALT 101 booya."

Oh. [laughs]

[laughs] "Home skillet, check it, it's ALT 101."

Dude, the, these things probably were things that people said.

"ALT 101 pwns your old CD collection."

Oh, god. Pwned.

"It wishes it was this tight."

Oh. [laughs]

That's right. "Unironically texted 'roar XD' to someone, you belong here."

Roar XD.

"Listening to anything else? Self fetch. Keep it right here."

Oh, geez. Yeah, see-

"Your fringe smells like ..." Uh, wait, what does it say here? "Your fringe smells like burnt ambition. ALT 101 gets it."

No, I don't, I don't remember that one. I mean, of course, I remember a lot of the original acronyms on the internet, like LOL, which people still use today.

"No posers allowed, we mean it. ALT 101."

[laughs]

I have that in there.

"Let's take a ride on the Lawler Coaster." [laughs]

"Salty parents, happy peeps. ALT 101."

Oh, dude. My generation sucked. [laughs] It's so cringe.

I'm in-between that generation and Gen Z. Like, I'm in that weird, weird gray area.

Yeah. Like, that, that definitely ... It seems like my generation, but I don't remember saying those things, but I, I remember seeing 'em online. I remember seeing 'em, going, "Ew, ew."

"Does your hairstyle only let you see out of one eye? You belong here. ALT 101."

[laughs] Oh.

"Never being brave, never being brave enough to get full-on raccoon hair, mostly because your mom wouldn't allow it."

[laughs]

"Studded belts and skinny jeans that were still halfway down your legs, ALT 101 welcomes you home."

Yeah, what was up with the, you know, the s- the pulling your skinny jeans down? 'Cause in the, uh, mid, mid '90s, you know baggy pants that you would, uh, sag down and show your boxers? That was a real thing.

Yeah.

And so you'd always hear old people, "Pull your pants up. God, pull your pants up." You know? Uh, but then the emos would do that with the, yeah, the chain belt. You know, which I felt like they stole from the black metal scene.

Mm-hmm.

Like, wh- why are you guys wearing the chain belt, but, you know, these pink shirts and stupid hairdos?

Emos are posers, overall.

[laughs] There you go. I ... Like, girls that were emos ... Is, is it time for us to stop talking?

Yeah, we gotta move onto some-

Oh.

We gotta move onto another break, or move onto something else here.

Okay. Uh, well, I'll talk about emos more in a minute.

So before we talked about late '90s, early 2000's lingo, um, we were talking about home decor.

Yeah.

And I, I follow this subreddit called r/MaleLivingSpace.

Yeah, I'm joining it right now. I've been here before, but I haven't looked at it in a long time.

It's a, it's a nice break from all the other posts from r/Bald where I go-

[laughs]

... "Am I losing it?" [laughs]

[laughs] Thankfully, R/Bald is not showing up on my feed anymore.

It's them. It's R/Bald, R/MaleLivingSpace. There's also, like, R/Metalcore, where people are like, "This is the worst song I've ever heard," and other people are like, "Oh, you suck." [laughs] Just arguing back and forth.

Yeah, I get a lot of, uh, Red Dead Redemption. You know, that, that pops up a lot on mine. But, um, you reminded me about Male Living Space, and I figured we'd take a look 'cause we were talking about our, our living spaces and how I like it really weird, you know, strange stuff. You know, chances are, I'd buy all my decorations at, like, Spenser's and, [laughs] you know-

But see here-

... Shadow Domain.

... I want my place to be filled with stuff that's, like, from w- vacation spots, or from, uh, adventures. Like, Olvera Street in LA-

Okay

... like, they had this cool sugar skull that had a whole design on it. I almost wanted to get that.

Yeah, I've got some weird stuff from, uh, vacations.

Yeah.

For sure.

Yeah. There's one person that I know that has a table from Japan in the middle of their living room, and it's really cool-looking. It has a nice design. It's circular.

Geez. So, they had it shipped?

I don't know.

Yikes.

I- it wasn't in the carryon, so...

Well, yeah, some people got a lot of money. Yeah, I, I decided to look at some of these male living spaces and cast my judgment on them. Are you s- is the first one you see this one about the guy who has a loft in a old high school?

Yeah, that's the one I was looking at.

Okay.

I was about to tell you about that one.

Yeah, I don't like it. I'm not a fan. This guy is a, I'm guessing, a hipster.

I kinda like it. I mean, the, the thing is we're talking about stuff that we're seeing. The listeners aren't.

I know. So, you know what an old school looks like, right?

But does he get access to the rest of the school? Does he have to, like, travel down the hallway to get to his, his loft?

I'm guessing it's a whole bunch of people living in each classroom.

Oh, that would suck. Do you-

It'd be terrible.

Is there a community bathroom, just like high school?

Probably. [laughs]

Oh, no.

Yeah. Like-

Do, do they turn the stalls into showers?

[laughs]

Or s- like, what happened?

Uh. And he has a giant spoon and a giant fork-

My parents have-

... hanging on his wall

... my parents have that type of thing on their wall.

See, it, to me this looks like if an old lady lived in a, uh, in an old school room. Li- which I, I shouldn't say anything 'cause I have a lot of, uh, wooden furniture. But, you know, he's got the mini Pac-Man mach- arcade game. Like, if you're gonna get an arcade machine in your house, get a full-size one that has, like, the 1,000 games in it.

I think that is a full-sized one. It's just-

Are you sure?

... it's, it's so small because he lives in a old high school. I mean, you see that exposed AC right there? What's that? What's that exposed pipe?

No, that's, it's a, it's a mini 'cause look at the chair next to it.

Yeah, but th- that's, that's-

Like-

... I think full-size.

I don't know. It looks s- it looks small to me. But then he's got the Victrola dog sitting on some wood thing. You know, he does at least has a flatscreen TV, but I'm not, I'm not a big fan of this guy's setup. You know, but that's-

I, I, I-

... that's my, my jam there.

I was going through some sort of, uh, just investigative case on, or investigation, really, on how minimalist, "minimalist" people live their lifestyle.

Yeah.

Like, where do they store essential documents? Where do they store, um, most of their clothes? They just block it all off? Like, is there just a giant mess behind a certain door?

Yeah, I bet there's one room in their house that's a complete disaster and packed like a hoarder's house [laughs], you know, 'cause you have to put that stuff somewhere. Yeah, the one I'm looking at right now has got a kinda minimalist vibe.

'Cause I was thinking, like-

And it looks like an old lady's house. Like, what kinda man are you?

... I've been told m- many times to keep these documents, just in case. Your Social Security card, your birth-

That one makes sense

... your bir- your birth certificate, your... uh, what else is there? But then there's also, like, tax documents.

Yeah, I have all of those.

Wh- where do those minimalist people put those things? Oh, just throw them away.

[laughs] No, they, like I said, they got the hoarder room. Look at this person's bedroom. What a dullard.

[laughs]

This bedroom sucks.

Looks like an Airbnb.

It does. There's a lamp. You got a rug under the bed, and there's nothing else in there. It sucks. This, there's, ugh, ugh, the walls are just all painted white, the countertops. He's got white rug, white chairs, white bedding. Ugh.

The stain waiting to happen.

Yeah, e- exactly.

I, I wish these people would disclose how much money they make. I'm looking at this guy's apartment that has tons of really cool decorations. He says, "I took your advice, got more plants." And his apartment looks really cool. He looks to be in a city like New York.

Okay, let me see if I can find that one scrolling through here.

It's not too far down. But he has one of those, like, very thin televisions, almost like paper.

Yeah, I'm not seeing that one for some reason, the, uh, "I took your advice." Like, I saw this one popped up that this is, this is a little more to my jam right here. Kinda got that Victorian-esque look to it. Some nice curtains, a weird light fixture, a rug with an actual design on it. Oh, geez, look at this. Look at this poor fella.

[laughs]

That must be New York.

That, that... One of the worst things you'll see on this, on this, uh, subreddit is you'll see people that are like, "Yeah, I'm 45. Recently divorced. I'm eating a can of beans every night for dinner. Here's my bed. Here's my foldout chair. Here's what, uh, here's the one TV my, my ex-wife allowed me to have."

Oh, that is... Yeah, this can be a very sad subreddit, so yeah, um-

Well, they followed your advice. They dumped them.

Dump 'em [laughs], that's right. All right, here's a guy living in a garage.

Yeah, I saw that one.

[laughs] Yeah. Yeah. Uh, yeah, I mean, ugh. Look at... See, here's another one. What kinda man is this?

See, now I'm getting advertisements for hims like, "Grow your hair back, baldy."

[laughs]

In the middle of this one, I can't escape, there's just, just the close-up selfies of dudes-

Ugh

... either with no hair or growing back their hair [laughs].

Yeah. I guess... Dude, I'm, I'm...I'm not a big fan of most of these guys' male living spaces. Like, look at th- is... Oh, is this the one you're talking about that looks really fancy where you wonder how much money they have?

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

That's one of them.

Like, I don't like it. It looks like you'd have to be careful in there, you know? I don't want to-

Well, you're not gonna walk into the house looking like the Tasmanian Devil, are you?

[laughs] But still, looks like he has ancient artifacts sitting on the coffee table, like that stuff's gonna get broken, dude.

Okay, here's the thing, I was talking about this with Aubrey. Throw pillows, right?

Yeah.

What's the point of them?

There is no point. [laughs]

They just sit there and they get in the way.

They do.

My fat butt needs a lot of extra cushion to sit on the couch. I don't wanna sit on some pillow and throw my back out.

I know, I have two, two throw pillows in my living room, and I don't know why.

Oh, that's another throw pillow that makes me so mad. You talked about that question yesterday, what small thing instantly, like, just makes your blood boil. You see some sign that says, like, "Reserved for the dog."

[laughs]

Th- the throw pillow that says that... [laughing] We were at the Rexburg Walmart, and I chucked it across the store.

Now, I do have a bunch of cat stuff all over my house, but it's weird cat stuff, all right?

I did give you the, uh, the cat with the Ouija board-

Yeah

... when I went to Michaels for... They also have some cooler stuff. I texted it to you.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

I've just been too broke, Peaches, you know?

There's some little knickknacks that you should put on those shelves with all the horror books.

Yeah, uh, yeah, I, I did put up... Becca had a sign that says, uh-

[laughs]

I think it says, "Smells like children," or, "I eat children." [laughs] It's a Halloween sign.

I just thought it was really funny.

So I put that on my desk-

You should-

... or my bookshelf.

[laughs] You should... You should upload your house in, in the, into the subreddit-

[laughs]

... but pretend Becca's dead on the floor. [laughing] Put, put some ketchup around her.

[laughs] This is now a male living space. [laughing] Uh, uh, hey, Peaches, joking about things like that ain't funny. Come on, man. Okay, now this looks like a man's space to me. Look at this one right here. You got some guns. You got, like, a skull hanging on the wall.

I call beer water.

[laughs] That's right, that's what it... That looked like a manly space to me.

Screwdriver, don't need her. [laughing]

As you would say, Victor, "Slayer!"

Slayer!

Yeah.

Slayer!

Raining blood.

Teach how you have to say it every time. Slayer!

You do a whole lot better than me.

Well, I've been doing it for many years.

Yeah.

Many years.

Sure.

Slayer! [laughs]

What was I gonna talk about? Oh, yeah, more on this whole home decor thing.

Okay. [laughs] You know this is very rock and roll.

I hate unnecessary mirrors.

Okay. Um, now what qualifies as an unnecessary mirror?

Like if there's a mirror on the other side of your bedroom looking at your bed as you're trying to go to sleep.

Yeah, I wouldn't... I don't think I'd want that.

Yeah, I don't see my fat butt with a CPAP on.

[laughs]

Then taking it off, waking up in the morning, I'm like, "Oh, dazed." There's CPAP markings all over my head.

Yeah, there is not a mirror that faces my bed, uh, in my room.

I was thinking about putting one in my dining room.

Okay.

But also-

That'll make your dining room feel a little bit bigger.

It's gonna be me devouring my Taco Bell, and I look, look up and there's fire sauce all over my face.

Like, I put in two mirrors in my dining room, those big round ones, um, and it made it feel bigger in there. And they're positioned just right, so if you were to look to the right while you're eating, you wouldn't see yourself eating.

I hate this whole home decorating crap, because I literally got an ad for, for, for, from Target about these taper candles, like the long stick ones.

Yeah.

And I was like, "Oh, maybe I should get a candelabra for the dining room."

[laughs]

And put these long,

long, long, [laughs] long candles, but those scented pine cones in the middle.

Oh, don't... I hate scented pine cones.

[laughs]

I walked into WinCo the other day and they had 'em outside.

Yeah, yeah.

And, and I could s- I still was like, "Oh, oh."

Trader Joe's has that same thing, but their brooms. Their scented brooms.

Scented brooms, huh?

Yeah. Yeah, they're pretty cool. I mean, it's like a witch's broom, but they smell like-

Yeah

... those pine cones.

Ugh. I can't stand that potent cinnamon smell.

Why?

I don't know why. I just hate it. And when WinCo has 'em, like, in the entr- Once it gets colder out-

Yeah

... they're gonna move 'em in by the carts.

Sure.

So you walk in and it's just like, "Oh-"

Next to the-

... "I can't breathe."

Next to the 50 cent Powerades there's those scented pine cones.

Yeah.

I was honestly thinking about getting a pack of those today.

Oh.

'Cause I have that bowl in the middle of my, uh, my dining room.

Yeah.

Or, my dining room table. My, my dining room table. My, my dining hall, as you will. I get the runner. No, I'm just kidding.

Y- yeah. I, I need to clean up my dining room table and, uh, put a tablecloth on it. I think we got, or Becca has a nice little, uh, candle holder that looks like, uh, like a washed-up piece of wood from the ocean that holds three candles.

Cool.

I think that would look pretty nice on there. Uh, but in, uh, for the last few months, or the last year, I didn't use my dining room table, so I just put a tablecloth on it and two cat beds.

Nice.

You're like, "There you go, kitties. You have a nice elevated, super expensive bed that I'll never use."

But-

Now I've been using it again.

We were thinking about getting rid of the towel rack in my, uh, bathroom and just replacing it with some sort of shelf.

Mm-hmm.

And, uh, Maddy was super, super nice and she bought from a local artist a stained glass fish.

Wow.

And so I have that as a gift from her for my birthday earlier this year, and I'm gonna put that in the bathroom right above the toilet there.

Very nice.

Yeah.

Very nice.

Very, very fun conversation here about- [laughs]

I know. I-

... home decor.

In my bathroom I have a, a Green Jello poster from when-

Nice

... when they played at, uh... Well, I have three bathrooms.

Don't you have the, uh-

Yeah, let me pat myself on the back with my three bathrooms. [laughs]

Oh, good for you.

Got the main bathroom, I got the Green Jello poster from when we played with them at the, uh, Flip Side. And then I- Wow-wa-wai, is very nice. And I have a chair.

[laughs]

And, and then I have a, uh, Scale the Summit poster from when we played with them in Boise. But I was gonna replace it with the Doug Stanhope, Andy Andress poster where they're kinda fused together and it's really gross looking.

I have, I have that one-

Yeah, you-

... in my, uh, second bedroom-

Nice. I-

... on the poster wall.

I was thinking the main floor bathroom that everyone uses.

What's the AI song? I need to get a clip of that for the soundboard. The Mr.... Fancy Pants Rich McGee over here.

[laughs]

And it has the, "Bleep you," at the end of it.

Ah, yes, yes. We, we could definitely use that. But, uh, you know, just you be you, everybody, is what I'd like to point out, like we have many times. You see everybody decorating the exact same. Like they want their houses to look like the houses that you see for sale on Zillow. And it's like, the, no, the... They're just trying to sell those. You can do whatever you want. It's your house. You wanna hang up a... I don't... I almost said... I don't know, Peaches.

Oh, jeez. All right.

I'm not gonna say it.

Brain fart, or what? Oh, okay.

Yeah, I'm just... I decided against it.

Well, if you hang up that sign that says, like, you know, "Home is where the heart is." You know, that type of thing.

Yeah. Or-

Knock it off.

Or, I don't know, if you're a dude and you're, like, older, I don't know about hanging-

And you've got the, uh, Scarlett Johansson poster.

[laughs] Yeah, I was gonna say, if you're hanging up the posters-

Kate Upton on the wall. I wish my wife looked like that.

The girls in bikinis on your wall, full-size posters.

The "I hate my wife" posters too, right next to it. [laughing]

Oh, jeez. That was my male living space. What do you think about my male... [laughing] Does anybody ever upload those?

Wife, you mean unnecessary roommates? [laughing]

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