Ep. 87 - Can You Expense a 12-Pack for Journalism? - 09/25/2025
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Ep. 87 - Can You Expense a 12-Pack for Journalism? - 09/25/2025

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[upbeat music] The Noon Hour of Madness and Mayhem, the podcast.

It's the Noon Hour of Madness and Mayhem. I am Peaches. Hold on, I'm not even recording on this thing. [laughs]

[laughs] Way to go, Peaches, way to go.

It's the Noon Hour of Madness and Mayhem. I am Peaches.

I am Victor Wilt.

I feel like music is the same now as, uh, Hollywood, where they're running out of ideas for songs, so they're now just covering random songs from the past-

Mm-hmm

... like you said, Sleep Token covered Dancing in the Dark from Bruce Springsteen on tour.

Mm-hmm.

And now I just saw POD did a cover of Don't Let Me Down from the Beatles, which ... do we really need covers?

Uh, I think if you can do 'em in an interesting way, they can be cool. But how often does a cover come out that's really, really good? You know?

I, I don't think people are very excited for covers. They want original content.

Oh yeah, for sure, like when Ghost put out that '80s cover album. I mean, that was b- about as boring as it gets to me, you know?

I did like their cover of Jesus, He Knows Me, but I do like that song overall from Genesis.

Yeah, I mean, it was, it was good, but I, I don't remember the last time I turned it on.

Nobody has-

Yeah

... I, I don't think [laughs].

I mean, and we were talking about POD covering the Beatles. Ghost covered the Beatles back in the day. They did, um ... oh my gosh, it was right on the tip of my tongue. What was the stupid song? Oh, um, I keep thinking, uh-

Here Comes the Sun?

... Call Me Little Sunshine, 'cause yeah [laughs], Here Comes the Sun [laughs]. I'm like, "It's not it." Um, and it was a okay cover too. Ghost has done some other covers that were pretty good. But I don't know, man. Like how ... what are some of the greatest cover songs of all time? Like-

Hurt from Johnny Cash, obviously.

Hurt from Johnny Cash. There you go.

The Sound of Silence, Disturbed.

Yeah, they, they did a unique take on that, for sure. Uh, Alien Ant Farm, Smooth Criminal.

That has to be up there, for sure.

That'd probably be on there.

Um ...

But I'm ... I can't think of a lot of standout cover songs.

The Man Who Sold the World from Nirvana. That's kind of ...

Yeah, but I like the original better, myself. I- it's all psychedelic and weird.

Right.

You know, it, it's a really cool David Bowie song.

Jimi Hendrix's version of Bob Dylan's All Along the Watchtower.

Okay, that's pretty good. That's pretty good. Um ...

Uh, Whitney Houston's iconic, I Will Always Love You, originally by Dolly Parton.

Oh yeah, that's right. That ... I forgot about that one. That's, uh ... are you at this Esquire list, or ...

No, I'm just looking here. I know Aretha Franklin's Respect is actually a cover song as well.

Oh, is it?

Yeah.

Oh, I, I didn't know that.

That's a huge, huge track. It's probably her biggest one.

Okay, here, Rolling Stone-

Twist and Shout by the Beatles.

That ... okay, yeah, I think everybody, you know, probably only knows ... or not everybody, but most people probably only know the v- Beatles version.

Right.

Uh, according to Rolling Stone readers, the number one cover song of all time was All Along the Watchtower by Hendrix, and then Johnny Cash, Hurt at number two. Um ...

Sinéad O'Connor, Nothing Compares 2 U, I know there's that one.

They got Nirvana, The Man Who Sold the World, Beatles, Twist and Shout. The White Stripes, Jolene. I don't think I've ever even heard that.

No, I'm ... I bet that's awful.

I bet ... ch- pull, pull that up, Peaches. Pull that up, uh, for me real quick here and let's, uh, give it a listen. I'm, I'm sure you can find it on the YouTubes.

I honestly can't stand the White Stripes with that Seven Nation Army song.

I, you know-

It just sucks to me.

I, I don't mind the White Stripes. I like 'em. But I've, I've never heard Jolene by them, and I

... You would think if it's one of the greatest cover songs of all time, it's gotta be really good, 'cause it ... they've got it, uh, in that same list with Nirvana and stuff.

One, two, three.

All right.

Amen.

[music]

Jolene, Jolene, Jolene, Jolene.

So the drummer must have sang it.

I'm gonna love you, jolene.

Jump a ways in to where-

I'm gonna love you.

... it's really rolling.

You can.

I would assume they kick it up a notch, don't they, at any point?

When he calls your name, Jolene.

A minute and a half in, let's try again at two minutes.

Well, I can easily understand how.

'Cause the original's got some, some tempo to it, the Dolly Parton song.

Somewhat.

Yeah. I'm, "More than this."

Yeah.

Yeah. Huh. Yeah, Guns N' Roses, Knocking on Heaven's Door.

Oh yeah. Great, great track.

Yeah, I mean, that's, uh

... you know, p- they did a pretty good job with that. Muse, Feelin' Good.

Who's the original? And I b- I don't know if I know that song either. Huh. N- that just goes to show, not a lot of really good cover songs out there.

I see Ike and Tina Turner, Proud Mary from Creedence Clearwater Revival.

Yeah, but that ... it couldn't be better than the original.

Soft Cell, Tainted Love.

Okay, oh, okay, all right. Um, you know, I would say Marilyn Manson, Sweet Dreams. It, they ... he did a pretty good job with that cover.

I'm looking at udiscovermusic.com's, uh, list of the best cover songs. At number 13 they have the Run-D.M.C. edition of Walk This Way.

Does that count though?

It, it still has Aerosmith in the song.

Yeah, I don't think that counts as a cover.

Uh, Cyd Leiper, Girls Just Wanna Have Fun. Didn't realize that was a cover.

What? That's a cover?

Eric Clapton, I Shot the Sheriff. That's a Bob Marley song.

Yeah, yeah, I guess that's correct. Let's see-

George Harrison, Got My Mind Set On You.

That's a cover song?

Yeah. From J-

What?

... a guy named James Ray. I see Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, I Love Rock and Roll, Roll. That's from the Arrows.

What? Uh, man, I am not very educated when it comes to music, apparently.

Uh, Led Zeppelin, Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You.

Um, I guess, uh, Quiet Riot, Come On Feel the Noise.

Oh yeah.

I didn't know that one.

Fantastic track.

I didn't know that was a cover song.

The- they were told to cover it. They decided to do it. They just kinda messed around. The lead singer screamed the entire time. They didn't like it for the longest time.

Huh.

Turned out to be their biggest hit. [laughs]

Oh yeah.

Metallica, Whiskey in a Jar.

[laughs]

... number-

Oh, yeah

... 26 on this list.

Really? Yeah, you know, and that's gotta really suck when you're, kinda like with Alien Ant Farm, your biggest song is a cover song. That, uh, that's gotta be a real bummer.

Well, apparently if you go back to their discography, you go back to that album from Alien Ant Farm, I, I guess there are a lot of good tracks on it. Just people paid attention only to the Smooth Criminal cover.

Yeah, I've heard some other good songs from those guys, but-

And that was o- that was probably only because of Michael Jackson saying, "Hey, these guys really saved my career. Thank you." Um, Van Halen also covered You Really Got Me-

Oh, yeah

... with Kinks. That's a great cover song.

I forgot that was a cover. That's pretty good. I'm just scrolling this big long list here, and, you know, a lot of the-

Gary Nilsson covered Without You? Huh.

Let's see. I wonder if we're looking at the same list. I'm at, uh, Paste Magazine.

Charles Bradley covered Changes from Black Sabbath. I need to hear this.

Okay. Yeah, c- uh, hey, uh, YoungBlood! did a good cover of, uh, Changes. I thought it was pretty good. I know [instrumental music playing] not all listeners agreed.

Big build-up here in the intro.

Should I fast-forward?

Yeah.

Best friend

that I ever had.

They made, like, a blues ballad?

She was my woman.

I like it.

I loved her so.

It, it's not too bad.

Yeah. I mean, the song itself really is kind of just boring.

It, it's a slow song.

[laughs] Yeah.

Ah, this list reset itself right when I was getting to the top 20. I hate it when, ugh, they ... Anyway.

They also have, like, pop-up ads and all that crap.

Mm-hmm.

It's one of the worst. It's one of, like, a, a w- you go to a recipe online and they give you all of the, uh, their, their, their life story.

Mm-hmm.

There's a whole bunch of pop-up ads there.

Yep.

I was hoping there was, like, some sort of major official list of the best cover songs of all time. Ro-

It seems to be all over the place.

Rolling Stone released one back in 20- 2011, and I know Rolling Stone puts out some of the worsts list, the worst lists you'll ever see.

Oh, yeah.

And, yeah, of course they chose Jimi Hendrix All Along The Watchtower at number one.

Mm-hmm.

That's really number one? Johnny Cash Hurt has to be number one.

It, it, it's, it's better than ... Well ...

Jeff Buckley Hallelujah at number three.

They, uh, this list has Bad Wolf Zombie. That was a big deal when it, uh, came out. They've got Limp Bizkit Behind Blue Eyes. I did think they did a good job with that. Um, there's Smooth Criminal, Johnny Cash Hurt, Disturbed.

I'm now looking at my list of the, uh, c- of cover songs that I particularly like.

Mm-hmm.

And I completely forgot about Higher Ground from Red Hot Chili Peppers.

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

I love that l- little, little bass intro.

[instrumental music playing]

It ... They did do a good job with this one.

Yeah. That one's good.

For sure. Yeah.

Um, Walk from Avenged Sevenfold. What does that sound like? [instrumental music playing]

Is it Pantera?

Should I fast-forward?

Yeah. I wanna hear the vocals.

If you wanted to get under my skin. And call yourself a friend. I've got more friends like you. What do I do? Is there no standard anymore? Want it-

I, I give, uh, M Shadows some props. I'm throwing in some pretty decent screams.

Yeah.

I thought he was just gonna do his usual thing with that one, so ...

I gotta say, another great cover, Nickelback-

Dirty laundry-

[laughs] What about Nickelback, The Devil Went Down To Georgia?

There's that one too.

Yeah, yeah.

All right, listen to this.

I make my living off being the news.

It's not too bad. [laughs]

I like it. There's a whole bunch of them. There's a whole ... Oh, yeah, It's A Long Way To The Top If You Want To Rock And Roll from Dropkick Murphys.

Oh, I, I don't know if I've heard that unless I heard it live, but ... Yeah, Ghost did Enter Sandman. Lotta people really liked that one.

That band Heck Yeah covered I Don't Care Anymore. [laughs]

Yeah, th- uh, I think still, though, there's not a lot of like, just killer, killer covers.

Five Finger Death Punch covered Bad Company. Korn covered Another Brick In The Wall.

Yeah.

Forgot about that one.

And all of those are okay.

Oh, Land Of Confusion, Disturbed, another great cover song.

Yeah, they did a good, they did a good job with that one, so-

Uh, Arena Fire from Social Distortion.

Yeah.

Good up at that one.

Well, I don't know. I, I would imagine we're gonna be getting some more covers soon, Peaches. It's, uh, I think cover season.

Well-

Wintertime.

Oh, neat.

When bands [laughs] you know, aren't busy-

They get-

... but they wanna put something out

... th- they get under all those covers 'cause it's wintertime-

[laughs]

... and it's cold. [laughs] [instrumental music playing] Here we go, Victor. Here's a question specifically for you. What do you do when listeners just keep texting you or messaging you on Facebook about specific songs? Or they keep trying to say, "Hey, put this on the air, put this on the air, put this on the air," over and over and over again? Do you eventually put it on the air, or what do you do?

It depends. You know, uh, if the song is good,

I might consider throwing it on to be nice if I could find a copy of it. You know, a lot of times, um,

you know, they'll call with something kind of obscure-

Right

... you know? And so it can be difficult.

And they'll, they'll hit you with the whole, "Everyone is gonna like this." I, uh, "This is what-"

[laughs]

"This is my underground favorite."

But generally, I'll just say, "I'll see what I could do."

Right.

And then I forget.

[laughs] You know me, Peaches. I'll be like, "Yeah, yeah, I'll see what I could do. Let me see what I could do."

'Cause-

And then I forget

... if there's one thing I hate, is when people double text me. I will always block a number. If they text me and I never respon- I don't respond, and then they say, "Hope you have a great day." I will always block a number.

[laughs] Oh, yeah?

Oh, yeah.

I'm gonna remember that. [laughs]

[laughs]

I'm gonna text you a bunch of times in a row. "Come on, fool."

I'll answer.

[laughs]

[laughs] But there are people that are like, "Hope you're doing well, bro," like after like I ... like they just sent me the message, and I'm in the middle of doing stuff.

Yeah.

That or they text me, and then they call me here on the phone to say the same thing.

See, and I'm terrible. Like, um, I think it was two days ago, for some reason, you know, Meta Business Suite-

Oh

... like, notified me that I had a new message or something. And so I went through that to get into Instagram, and-I don't know where all these messages had been hidden, but I thought I'd kept up on my Instagram messages. I bet I went through 100 messages, and they went back to 2019-

Oh, boy

... that, that I never responded to. It, it, 'cause they didn't show 'em to me, you know? I was like, "Where, where are these?" 'Cause if you open Instagram, you have like three different levels of folders. There's like general and [laughs] I don't know.

Yeah, there's random people who like respond to my story or send me Reels, and I'm just like, "Okay, cool," and I'll just decline [laughs]

... these people. I always try to respond, but I bet there's a ton of people out there that think I'm a jerk who just doesn't answer 'em, and it's not the case. I just didn't know that I had those messages, for years and years and years.

Um, there was one time somebody kept like posting in the Kayber group saying, "I've been trying to get Kayber to play this song. I, I guess they won't. Oh, well," and then they repeated it-

[laughs]

... over and over and over again.

Uh-

And it's like, but by the fifth time he texted me about the song, that's when I decided to play it. Like, what, what, what's the whole... Like, I never understood the whole, like, being adamant over and over type of thing, you know? He's a-

Holy crap, dude. Yeah.

What, what's-

See, like, I fire up Instagram now. You have your primary folder. You have requests. You have-

Right, it's, it's so annoying

... hidden requests.

Hidden [laughs] yeah.

That are in there, and then you go back, "Hold on, let me get into the messages again," and then there's general. And then there's a thing you can add filters-

[laughs]

... but all of those messages I looked at, like two days ago, they're not even... They're not showing up on my phone.

Why can't it just be one inbox, like-

And who uses Instagram on a computer?

Nobody.

In Meta Business Suite? No one. I hate Meta. Zuck, you suck.

[laughs]

You're, you're a turd, dude. You're a turd, and your products are terrible.

You know that one thing [laughs], that one meme where he goes, where he's repeating somebody's chat when he's live, and he goes, "Mark, give me the Zuck." [laughs]

[laughs]

And then he goes, "Well, uh, l- l- tell me what that is, and I'll see if I can do it for you." [laughs] Like he has no idea. [laughs]

Oh, he just doesn't even get... He's so just out of touch, and, ugh. All social media platforms, man, they start out pretty good and then they just turn to crap. You know, Myspace, that's why it doesn't exist anymore, they ruined it. Facebook, oh, it sucks. Especially now, 'cause they're just pummeling you with content that you don't wanna see. Like, I'm getting pummeled with all these like really misogynistic memes, for some reason.

Geez, all right. [laughs]

And I've never clicked like on any of them or responded to them, and they just keep ... just pummeling me with them.

It's because you keep making those misogynistic jokes, you know, behind the scenes.

You know me, I'm always just talking crap on the ladies.

Especially the Becca, she was, she was telling me.

I know.

Yeah.

I'm just a straight-up misogynist.

[laughs]

That's right, the Victor Wiltz show. [laughs]

All right. That's getting added to the soundboard. [instrumental music plays] All right, Victor, you ready to get dicey?

Yeah.

I saw somebody ask an AskReddit, what's the worst mistake a US president has ever made? Come on, Victor, give me an answer.

Oh, uh, I ain't getting into this.

[laughs]

Not, not in this day and age. [laughs]

AskReddit, for some reason, is, is such a joke right now, because they keep asking, "How do you feel about this particular thing that the current administration is doing?"

I know, like what-

And it's that over and over and over again.

Dude, I've been seeing a lot of really dumb crap on Reddit lately, and I think people are really lonely right now or something. 'Cause I'll see

like people posting random questions in AskReddit that you don't really need the answers for. Or they're like, "Hey, you know, here's, here's my dream casting if they make this book into a movie," and there's just hundreds of posts like that. I think people are really lonely right now or something.

My entire Reddit feed are just balding dudes going, "Is it time?"

[laughs]

"Is it time?" [laughs] And then there's-

Yeah, I, I haven't gone to the bald subreddit in a while, 'cause that's what starts happening. You go there once, and they're like, "Oh, you wanna see a bunch of pictures of dudes with crappy hair? All right."

My fa- my favorite one that popped up, uh, I sent to my, uh, I sent to the group chat was from r/mensgrooming, "Is my haircut God for my face?" And I said, "Here you go." [laughs]

Ugh.

Wh- why? Why? Men's grooming?

R/mensgrooming.

Hold on, I gotta see what's on men's... No, uh, I don't wanna go there. Now I'm gonna start getting a bunch of pictures of dudes-

[laughs]

... showing off their chest like that guy.

You wa- you wanna see the guy's username? [laughs]

Uh-

Look at it, top left.

Oh, my goodness.

[laughs]

I think we... Well, I, I don't know.

I don't want to.

That's a JPA.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's a JPA.

Yeah.

Jade Pucker Alert.

[laughs]

Men's grooming, it's only got 29,000 visitors. Um... [laughs]

[laughs]

Dude, who's going here? "Rate me with short and longer hair respectively," and it's like-

Look, I literally went right onto Reddit, "Is it time?"

[laughs] "Is it time? Time for me to shave-"

And it's always their scalp.

[laughs] I know. Like, they take a picture from the front, and then a picture from the top, and they show their bald spot. "Oh, that guy looked better with the crappy hair."

[laughs] Shit.

Every o- [laughs] every once in a while, you know, that...

He looks like if, uh-

I don't know, he's-

... if, uh, Tuco from Breaking Bad and Walter White had a kid.

[laughs]

That's, [laughs] that's all is.

Tight, tight, tight.

Yeah, that's his haircut.

[laughs] Oh, men's grooming, this... Dude-

[laughs]

... it's just pictures of dudes asking how they can improve their looks and what kinda haircut looks best. [laughs]

I've been, I've been getting a lot of other posts like r/doppelganger, like, "Nobody says I look like anybody. Who do I look like?"

[laughs]

And it's always some celebrity that's way better looking than them. Like, one girl uploaded a picture and someone said, "Dua Lipa." And someone replied, "Yeah, right."

[laughs] Paul Giamatti, that's Victor Wiltz's doppelganger.

Yeah, yeah.

We learned that a while back.

Who do I get? Like, Bill Fagerbakke or something? [laughs]

Oh, my gosh. Dude, men's grooming is even worse than bald. Oh, dude. Okay, I gotta get outta here. It's making me uncomfortable-

[laughs]

... to look at this subreddit.

And people can see your phone through the glass on the door.

I know. Victor's just looking at pictures of dudes. [laughs] What's wrong with them? And-

Hey, now.

... do, do w- are there even women responding to these guys in there?

No, it's dudes.

Like, "Hey, bro, I'll tell you what would make you look good. You gotta grow out that mustache, man. Yeah." [instrumental music plays][laughs]

All right, Victor, we're always complaining that we want more money.

That's right. You listening, Jade? I need more money.

And I see here, "Which high-paying jobs exist because people avoid doing them?"

I-

And I talked about my ex-girlfriend had a, uh, ex-boyfriend that was a lineman, not an NFL lineman, but one of those guys that worked, you know, up there. Little cr-

Like power lines?

Power lines, yeah.

Yeah.

And he would make like, $200K a year, and so he'd be like, giving her money and being like, "Here, get your nails done," or something like that. I'm like, "Can I find a girl like that? Can I..." [laughs] I'm just kidding.

[laughs] Yeah, where are some ladies with the high-paying jobs?

No, I'm kidding.

Ah, yeah. No, um, I, I would imagine that all of the jobs that are gonna be listed there are like, gross, right? Like ... Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. There was like, "Underwater cable repair."

Oh, that sounds horrible. That sounds very, uh, dangerous.

You go down there and fish just attack you.

Yeah. People get attacked by sharks all the time. I see it in the news and I talk about it on my show, weekday mornings, 6:00 AM to 10:00 AM.

Someone replied saying, "I met a guy that dove, dove the nuclear reactor cooling ponds to look-"

What?

"... for leaks in the liner."

Oh.

"He didn't work many days a year and made big money."

Dude. I don't know if the ... Maybe 'cause I watched that movie or the series Chernobyl-

Someone replied-

... I don't wanna mess with anything dealing with a nuclear reactor.

Someone replied saying he doesn't need to use the headlights on his car when he drives home at night.

[laughs]

[laughs]

It's worth it for the pay.

Oh.

Oh.

"I have a friend who runs a septic service, drives around a honey wagon to pump septic tanks. He also does repairs and installs, uh, installs of septic tanks. Uh, inherited the business from his dad. He has little competition and can charge whatever he wants. He w- he will also do emergency service calls in the middle of the night, but won't get out of bed for less than $1,000."

Wow. But you're dealing with jenkum.

Dookie.

Straight dookie.

Oh.

Dookie, liquid dookie. Ugh. But, you know, you're gonna make good money, right?

Yeah. I-

I don't know if it's worth it, though. You come home from work ... [laughs] Like, have you ever dated someone who worked at a, a restaurant?

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Okay, I had a, a ex-girlfriend who worked at Subway and she'd always come home just reeking of sourdough bread. [laughs]

[laughs]

You know, imagine if your job is dealing with sewage. You know? Nobody's gonna wanna be around you. You got that smell sticking to you all the time. It's gonna be up in your nostrils. Uh, ugh.

Well, I mean, there's also like, the farm workers that, you know, particularly smell sometimes if they don't take care of themselves.

Well, if you don't, yeah, shower, uh, shower off after, I don't know. And you're gonna have them boots. [laughs] You know? You gotta leave your boots outside 'cause they're just covered. You know, if you-

Oh-

... if you're out there, uh, scooping. You know? Scooping up poop.

Just imagine being a bartender too, you get the s- smell of the-

Eh, well-

... smoking bar.

If you're in a smoking bar, yeah. That would, that would be bad. 'Cause I know any time I go to a smoking bar, I pick my clothes up the next day and I'm like, "Oh, these stink." They're just terrible smelling.

Uh, "Death scene cleanup."

That's a real job. My dad had a friend who did that 'cause he bought ... He gave me a T-shirt, "Crime scene cleanup." It had their phone number. Yeah, somebody has to clean that up, Peaches. And s- that can get pretty grizzly sometimes. I, I bet those guys make a ton of money.

Well, there was a, a guy that my dad knew that worked on those oil rigs in the middle of the ocean.

Yeah.

And he would just go live out there for months.

Yeah.

That would suck.

I think the guys who work the oil fields like, in, uh, North Dakota and stuff, there's, there's people from around here who go do that for, you know, months at a time. And I know you make a lot of money, but it doesn't sound like it's very fun. Sounds rough.

Uh, "Sailing."

Sailing?

Yeah, that's what someone wrote.

Like, like being in a boat?

Yeah, the saying is that most of the pay is compensation for the lifestyle of being home half the time.

Oh. Do it ... Yeah, I'd, I'd be way too claustrophobic and freaked out to be-

There it is, "Deep sea welder."

Deep sea welder. What, do you scuba down? You gotta scuba down and weld things underwater?

There's no way they only make $50,000 to $100,000.

That ... You gotta make more than that.

Yeah, loo- look at these pictures. Like, you're way deep underwater in scuba gear with your big helmet on. You're just-

Yeah. No, there's no way

... welding away.

There's no way those guys are only making that kind of money 'cause regular welders make pretty good pay.

Right.

Yeah.

And what, do you gotta wear one of those, uh, you know, shaded masks? What does-

Yeah, this g- this guy is literally being lowered down in a steel cage with all of his equipment on.

Yeah, they're gonna give him $50K a year?

Down to the very bottom of the ocean. Yeah, right.

Nah, he's gotta be making more than that.

Some sea life just go- goes down and bites at you or something, you know?

Oh, man.

Face to face with a great white.

Yeah, forget about it.

And you wanted to bring back the megalodon on the previous Noon Hour.

[laughs] I still do. [laughs] I still wanna bring that.

Imagine that giant creature.

[laughs]

Yeah, I, I would ... [clears throat] I would be the worst person when it comes to this job. I hate, I hate underwater.

I, I'm not a fan either.

If I saw a whale, I, I'd, I'd, I'd walk on water. I, I'd be sprinting so fast back to the boat. It would suck.

Yeah, um, I don't even like being on a boat in the ocean. Being on a lake or, you know, a river, I'm okay with that. But oh, being on a boat in the ocean is ... Ugh, you just wanna puke.

The eeriest thing is when you go to the middle of the ocean and they turn the engine off and you hear nothing.

Ugh.

And then you hear the whale sound from the far distance.

Yeah, I've never been out that far.

Oh, it's bad.

Yeah, I was, I was like, in a bay or something in Mexico. Yeah, if I couldn't see land, I'd probably have a panic attack. [laughs] I'd freak out and I'd be an aggravating, uh, passenger.

[laughs]

Everyone on the boat would be just furious 'cause I'd be hyperventilating and vomiting. [laughs]

And then you have Jade and Josh on board doing their best to like, throw you overboard.

Oh. Terrifying.

[laughs]

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