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This is the noon hour of Madness and Mayhem. What's up, Peaches?
I'm glad to have you back. FJ was a great substitute, but nothing beats the real thing.
Yeah. Yeah.
It was like Van Halen with Sammy Hagar-
[laughs] Oh
... for the past couple of days.
[laughs]
Even though I prefer the Van Halen with Sammy Hagar. [laughs]
Well, I hope you had fun in my absence. Yeah, I wish I could've taken more time off, but didn't happen.
I can't believe you drove to Vegas rather than just fly out there.
Well, it, uh ... The reason I did so was the flight that was available and affordable, uh, would've gotten us in Friday night at, like, almost midnight, and that seemed pointless when we could wake up, drive, and get there at check-in time. You know?
I don't understand those people that just love driving. I just can't do it.
Yeah, I mean, it- it's an easy enough road trip. I was pretty dang tired by the time we got there, so we didn't really do much Friday night. But, uh ... And then on the way back, we ended up, uh, breaking up the trip. We stopped in, uh-
Oh. I thought you said breaking up, like you and Becca are done. [laughs]
We broke up. No, uh, we broke up the trip.
You start posting subtle, like, Facebook statuses.
[laughs]
I'll be fine, everybody. It's okay.
No. We, uh, stopped and stayed in Nephi, Utah, which is the land of excitement, Peaches.
I could only imagine.
[laughs] Out in the middle of nowhere. So yeah, uh, no flying. It was just too expensive, and there is no point in driving to Salt Lake and then flying to Vegas. You made it that far. You've already burnt enough time and gas money, and you're gonna have to pay to park your vehicle at the airport and then wait around at the airport for a couple hours, then fly, then wait around to get a ride to your hotel. Yeah, it's faster to, uh, drive to Vegas than to drive to Salt Lake and fly there.
This is what sucks about living in a small area.
Yeah.
I wanna, I wanna have an airport that just has around the clock flights everywhere.
Yeah. I mean, there were flights available, but it was way cheaper to drive.
Right. But if it cancels due to whatever reason-
Mm
... they always blame the weather, but that's never really the case. It's more so like, "Hey, the pilot got drunk as, you know, all heck."
[laughs]
And then-
The pilot's hung over
... yeah, you can't, uh, you can't-
So he doesn't fly
... post saying, "Hey, your flight got canceled 'cause this guy couldn't handle his liquor."
[laughs]
So ... [laughs]
So yeah, um, I recommend driving, Peaches. You know, uh, we're heading into a good time of year for a little bit of road tripping.
I can't wait for sunshine throughout the day and then rain hits right at 5:00 PM.
That's what happens.
I'm a- I'm anticipating a, a terrible, just wet summer like that.
Generally, it's, uh, nice every weekday, and then the weekends are terrible-
Exactly
... rainy. Yeah.
Yes. And then the farmers market gets canceled.
Mm-hmm.
The, the outdoor shows get canceled, and we have to hear about it from-
Mm-hmm
... these, these people. It's, "The show got canceled," the whole ... Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Weather is a thing. I mean, we had some, uh, snow on the way back, and that was another deciding factor in, okay, I guess let's stay in Nephi. Um,
I wasn't too happy the next morning 'cause I was like, oh, now I gotta drive four hours still? Ugh. But it, it was okay. I, I recommend driving, um, unless it's just so far away that it's not worthwhile. And I'd say 12 hours plus, eh, it might be worth looking at flying. But especially with these gas prices, Peaches. My goodness. Good thing we took Beck's car. That, uh, shaved that bill in about half. Wasn't too bad. Wasn't too bad. And, uh, gas, cheaper in Utah, everybody, just so you're aware.
Of course it is.
[laughs]
I was there not that long ago.
Uh, in Nevada, however, more expensive. You know, even, even in the small towns, it was a little bit pricier. So.
Yeah, I got another drive to Salt Lake City, not this weekend, but next weekend.
Party time, Peaches.
Time to talk to Vonna. Yeah.
All right. Well, that should be a good show. And if you wanna find out about all of the shows coming to the region and a good reason to get out of town, hit up our website. Check out the concert calendar at kbear.fm. [upbeat music] It's the noon hour of Madness and Mayhem, and Peaches found a wonderful list online that, well, we can eat up at least one break with this. I bet it might be two.
Yeah, so Consequence, they decided to pull a Rolling Stone and, uh, post their list of the 100 best vocalists of all time. 100 best. I don't know who number 100 is. It's a woman named Brandi. I'm assuming she's a, uh, R&B star.
Number-
Yeah, it says right here
... number 100?
Yeah.
Oh, okay. Now, I guess what they did was polled over 50 musicians, people like Steve Stevens, uh, Samia-
What a stupid name that is, Steve Stevens.
[laughs] Blonde-
Jon Johnson is his bro- is, uh, his best friend. [laughs]
Blonde Shell and Kneecap as well. Okay, they, they asked Randy Bly from, uh, Lamb of God, Mike Patton, Linda Perry-
Wait, wait, wait, wait. They asked Mike Patton?
... and many more. Mm-hmm, of Faith No More.
He's number eight on this list.
[laughs]
Did he just put himself there?
Who's the greatest of all time? Me. [laughs]
[laughs]
He is a great vocalist.
Well, at number 98, they got Serj Tankian.
I, I would
... I mean, he's not what I would
... Well, there's-
They got Biggie four ahead of him.
Yeah. I mean, Serj is one of those guys who I wouldn't call him, like, an amazing singer, but nobody sounds like him.
They got Lzzy Hale at number 92. She has one of the best voices. What is going on with this dumb list? Bruce Springsteen-
Michael Akerfeldt from Opeth at 93.
Yeah, Bruce Springsteen's, like, at 91, which he's not, he's not a good singer. [laughs]
Yeah. So-
[laughs]
All right
... Neil Young at 90.
[laughs]
Are they going off vocal ability or-
Yeah, Johnny Cash at 89. So you're telling me Johnny Cash, The Ring of Fire, is better than what Lzzy Hale can do? I'm not the biggest Halestorm fan.
[laughs]
And I can guarantee Johnny Cash, if he were to try to go high back in the day, it would've, wouldn't sound good.
That ... Yeah. And
so, uh, they can't be basing it on just, like, vocal ability or fame.
They also got Little Richard at 88Tutti frutti, oh rootie
[laughs] Uh, Bono at number 80, Peaches. Bono, he's, it, you know-
Lay off the crack with Consequence
... he's a fantastic-
Chris Stapleton at 82. That guy has one of the best voices.
He's o- uh, to me, okay
He should be in, at least in the top 50
... of the best vocalists of all time. I, I'm kind of curious what it gets down to toward the l- the, uh, top of the list, 'cause, okay, they have Axl Rose in here. Most people, I wouldn't say, would call Axl Rose a good vocalist. Kind of like Serj Tankian, great frontman, unique sounding.
Okay
But I mean, Axl Rose-
But-
... does not have a voice that's, like, pleasant
They have Ronnie James Dio at 57, right?
Okay.
Great voice, right?
Yeah.
Bob Dylan at 56.
Really? [laughs] Okay.
Bob Dylan sucks, okay?
Yeah.
I can, I can easily te- say that [laughs] wh-
[laughs]
... Bob Dylan is one of the worst people out there. It's like saying the lead singer of Hot Mulligan is, like, the to- in the top 10-
[laughs]
... for best vocalists of all time. Brian Garrison, Knocked Loose, why not?
Yeah, [laughs] throw him in there.
[laughs]
One of the greatest.
You have Layne Staley at 55.
They got Maynard at 71. Um, and they've got Fiona Apple at 70. Both of them I would call really, really good vocalists. Oh, and John Lennon at 66. You know-
Uh, a- and again-
... one of the most legendary vocalists of all time
... John Lennon ahead of Lzzy Hale.
[laughs]
I would,
I would, I would put John Lennon ahead-
Just imagine
... I would put John Lennon ahead of Lzzy Hale.
I married a, a cancerous lady.
But you can't put Bob Dylan ahead of Maynard or Fiona Apple. I mean, he-
You can put Bob Dylan-
It's Bob Dylan
... at 2,004. [laughs]
[laughs]
On this list of 100 people.
All right, we made it down to the top 50. We got Busta Rhymes-
Yes, he-
... who is a better vocalist [laughs] than, at number 50-
[laughs]
... than Maynard or many of the other vocalists we've mentioned. We'll get into-
Uh
... the top 50 on the next break, but-
[laughs] They put, I'm sorry, we, uh, they put Celine Dion at 49, right above Busta Rhymes at 50.
There's a little bit of difference in the vocal ability-
[laughs]
... between Celine Dion and Busta Rhymes. [laughs]
Whether, w- rock related or not, Celine Dion, one of the most iconic voices of all time.
Yeah, yeah.
One of the best out there.
She's a very powerful singer-
[laughs]
... as everybody knows. [laughs] How do you put her back to back with Busta Rhymes?
[laughs]
These internet lists, man, they're, they're wild sometimes. But yeah, we'll get into, uh, the top 50 on the next break. [upbeat music] It's the noon hour of Madness and Mayhem, and we're talking the top 100 best vocalists of all time. Not according to us, according to Consequence.
Yeah, we're, we're, we're [laughs]
We don't want you to t-
We felt it a consequence-
... think this is us
... to look at this dumb list.
[laughs] So we got down to number 49 with Celine Dion, back to back with number 50, Busta Rhymes. [laughs]
Busta Rhymes, great rapper, okay?
Great rapper, but-
Great rapper, not my heart will go on kind of, [laughs] kind of singer. [laughs]
And they also, again, put Busta Rhymes ahead of people like Layne Staley-
Lzzy Hale
... Ronnie James Dio. [laughs]
Yeah, you've gotta be kidding me.
Uh, Prince, David Bowie, John Lennon, uh, Maynard James Keenan, Fiona Apple, and m- and many more.
Would you consider Maynard James Keenan to actually be a fantastic vocalist?
Oh, yeah. Yeah, I definitely would.
Okay.
I think he's got, uh, a lot of range, and, uh, he's a very unique voice. Um, and he writes great lyrics. I don't, I don't know if you count that in being a good vocalist, but now we're getting into-
If they put Trent Reznor on this list, I swear
... [laughs] See, I bet he'll end up on the list. We have Busta Rhymes at number 50.
[laughs]
You don't think Trent Reznor's a better singer than Busta Rhymes?
They put Karen Carpenter at 44, and I gotta say, she has one of the best voices of all time.
Well, not as, well, okay, she's ahead of Busta Rhymes, but I mean, she's not gonna beat number 42, Iggy Pop.
I was gonna say-
[laughs]
... Iggy Pop at 42, are you kidding me? Janis Joplin also.
Janis Joplin I wouldn't call one of the best vocalists of all time. Again-
El- Elvis Presley at 40, okay?
[sings] Oh.
It's the same s- yeah, same tone in every s- oh.
[laughs] Oh, there's Ozzy at 38.
Yeah.
And Dolly Parton at 37.
Which is what I mentioned at the beginning part of the hour.
Yeah.
And Dolly Parton, she's a great, great person, great musician.
Yeah.
Does she have vocal range like, like Ozzy?
Like Ozzy? Come on, now. Uh-
Now, the Ch- the Christmas song that Ozzy did did not do him justice. Did not, with, uh, Jessica Simpson.
[laughs] No.
Sounds like a swarm of bees.
That, that was bad. [laughs] Okay.
DMX-
DMX at 32
... that's what I was gonna get at, too.
[growls]
[growls]
How, who would put him on a list of the best vocalists [laughs] of all time?
Frank Sinatra, okay, he deserves to be up there.
Sure.
But he also, he, he doesn't have that,
like, crazy range, does he?
No, he just does the Sa- the Frank Sinatra thing.
Fly me to the moon. It's the same thing every s-
[laughs] Here's your favorite, Tom Waits at number 28, Peaches.
He just talks.
[laughs] What's he building in there?
You have Ann Wilson-
[laughs]
... at number 30. Like-
[laughs]
You have Tom Waits above Ann Wilson.
All right, Kurt Cobain at number 25.
Uh, uh, yeah, you wanna sound like a blubbering idiot-
[laughs]
... with peanut butter in your mouth?
[laughs]
Put Kurt Cobain a t- [laughs] high up there. Or do your best Kurt Cobain impression, Victor, come on.
Who else do we... Uh, I mean, it's just t- stereotypical grunge voice, right?
[laughs]
Okay, Kendrick Lamar, great rapper, very good lyrics.
I don't know if I'd put him in the best, you know, top 20 best vocalists of all time. He's-
They also ranked him higher than Stevie Wonder.
Yeah.
Who's one of the best overall musicians of all time.
Yeah. And he's right next to Chris Cornell. Okay, maybe this list'll start to make a little more sense at the, the end here.
Again, Chris Cornell, one of the best v- voices. A- Adele at 18.
She's a great singer.
Yeah, she is, but-
Sure
... like, [laughs] it's just, it's, uh, she, Kendrick Lamar at 20-
Okay
... throws me off.
What about James Brown at number 17? [laughs]
Get him off of that thing.
[laughs]
Hank Williams-
[laughs]
Hank Williams Sr. at number 16. Sorry, but
i- if we're going best vocalist and we wanna talk country, you definitely put Chris Stapleton [laughs] ahead of Hank Williams. Hank Williams, he's ... [singing]
It's like Bob Dylan.
Yeah, it's a, yeah, very, very similar kind of-
Yeah
... kind of thing here. Uh, should we save the top 15 for the last?
[laughs] Sure.
All right. We'll ... 'Cause we'll probably have something to say about all of 'em. We'll be back.
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I'm Peaches.
We're-
And I'm also number 342 on this list-
[laughs]
... of the best vocalists of all time.
Yeah, yeah, dude. Of course.
Yeah.
[laughs] If you're just tuning in, talking the top 100 best vocalists of all time according to consequence.net. Um, the list has been very wack so far. We made it down to, uh, number 16.
So, you're telling me,
based ... Uh, the top 20 best vocalists, and somebody said, "Hey, why doesn't Kendrick ... Why isn't Kendrick Lamar in here?"
Yeah, yeah.
And let's put Kendrick Lamar in the top 20 best vocalists.
Well, and again, they put James Brown on here. I, maybe I haven't heard enough of James Brown [laughs] to hear the-
Get Up Offa That Thing. I love that song.
[laughs] Hank Williams Sr. at number 16, who, I'm sorry, but he's just, does not have a good voice. All right? Uh, sorry country fans, I know that's country blasphemy.
But again, they put Johnny Cash higher-
He was way up the list
... than Lizzy Hale.
Yeah, yeah. And Lizzy Hale is a good vocalist.
I Shot a Man in Reno. [laughs] It's the same thing every song.
All right. We're gonna count down the top 15. Number 15, I would expect to see on this kind of list, 'cause she does the high-pitch, uh, shrieking thing, Mariah Carey, with her [shrieks] I can't do it. You know what I'm talking about?
Just, just wait till we get to the top five.
Oh, great. I can't wait.
I hope you're ready for James Blunt to make an appearance.
No.
[laughs]
You can't put him in the top vocalists of all time.
He's not, he's not.
Okay.
I was just making a joke. I really want to see-
'Cause he is a, a horrible vocalist. If he was on this list, I'd-
Do they, they had, uh, Bjork on this list. They had, uh-
Yeah. At least she's, sounds unique.
If they had the guy-
I guess James Blunt does too [laughs]
If they had the guy from Weezer, I'd be also very upset.
Ah. Well, we'll find out. Ray Charles at number 14.
Okay. He's good.
All right.
He's good.
Rob Halford at number 13.
Not high enough.
You know, I would still put Ozzy ahead of Rob Halford.
Ooh, hot take.
It is a hot take, but I, I'd put Ozzy ahead of Rob Halford.
Would you, where would you put-
He's Ozzy.
Where would you put Layne Staley?
He'd be pretty high on the list, but I don't know if I'd put him ahead of Chris Cornell.
I think out of the grunge bands, Chris Corn- ... Dude, if they have Eddie Vedder in the top 10 [growls]
Do they have Dave Mustaine? Hello, me.
[laughs]
Meet the real me.
Yeah. Are they gonna have James Hetfield on here?
Watch him become a god.
Yeah, yeah.
No, wait. I'm sorry. Number eight, there he is right there, Lil Jon. Yeah.
[laughs] Yeah.
What?
Well, they had DMX in, like, the top 30. All right, Nina Simone.
Who was she? I don't know.
Uh, she was an artist from back in the day. Um-
I can tell by the grainy black and white photo.
Yes. Uh, Roy Orbison. M- All right.
What, what did he do?
Uh, he, he did a lo- like, that song, uh, Stand By Me, right? Isn't that Roy Orbison? He did a, a variety of tracks-
I thought that was Bill Withers
... back in the day. I don't know. I could be wrong. [laughs] I know I've heard Roy Orbison. Who is HR?
Uh, the lead singer of Bad Brains. Uh, you can tell Randy Bly influenced that one.
Okay, yeah, they did say they talked to, uh, Randy from Lamb of God in making this list. Um, I've, I've heard Bad Brains.
The, their vocalist doesn't deserve to be on the [laughs] top 100, put-
I, I would tell you also, like, all punk bands, th- they're not known for their, their vo- their vocals.
Yeah.
They're just known for going against the government and having this really horrible drumbeat behind them.
Yeah. Randy is who they quoted-
Yeah, see
... in this, uh, position here. Number nine, Michael Jackson. All right.
So, you're telling me the guy from Bad Brains is a step below Michael Jackson?
[laughs] That's right. One step below.
Only one. And they have Rob Halford at 13.
Yes.
[laughs]
Number eight, Mike Patton, who was also on the panel, but they did not-
He quotes himself? [laughs]
[laughs] And I would say, if you wanna talk, like, vocal skills-
Can you feel it, see it, hear it today? [laughs]
Like, he, he goes all over the place. He can scream. He can sing, uh, like, like, every style.
Mr. Bungle is a fun band, with that, uh, Squeeze Me Macaroni song.
Yeah.
About him having fun with food.
[laughs]
It's just, it's really fast.
Ella Fitzgerald, who you probably know from lots of Christmas songs-
[laughs]
... coming in at number seven.
See, I didn't know that. I was like, [laughs] "Who the heck is-
Ah
... Ella F- Ella Fitzgerald?"
We got, uh, Beyoncé at number six.
So, again, you're telling me Beyoncé steps above Rob Halford, Ozzy, Ronnie James Dio, Lizzy Hale?
Different kind of thing, I guess. And pretty, uh, iconic, I'd, I'd say. I'm not super familiar with all of her songs. I only like-
Say less
... her country s- I only like her country songs. [laughs]
Oh, yeah, E-haw.
[laughs] Okay. The list is getting wack already. Top five. Number five, Robert Plant-
See, I thought-
... of Led Zeppelin
... I think he's a good vocalist.
He's okay.
But I also think Led Zeppelin is one of the most overrated bands of all time.
I, I totally agree too. Um, and he doesn't deserve to be number five on the list. Uh, I'm sorry, but, uh, yeah, put ... I'd, I'd put Ozzy ahead of him too.
Yeah, I would.
I don't, I don't ... Maybe it's just 'cause I'm not a big Led Zeppelin fan.
Number four is Vessel. No, I'm kidding. [laughs]
[laughs] Yeah. They, they don't have Vessel on this list. Number four, Marvin Gaye, who's known for all his, uh, Let's Get It On, and Hey Baby, and, you know, the music you put on in the background to get her in the mood. [laughs]
That's how, uh, all those kids were born in the '80s-
[laughs]
... thanks to the Marvin Gaye.
Whitney Houston at number three. All right. You know.
A, a great vocalist.
She's in that, you know, like Adele, Celine Dion, you know-
Let's-
... Beyoncé kind of realm
... let's hear, in the, "And, uh..." Let's hear that, Victor, come on.
Nope. I ain't gonna do it.
[laughs]
Aretha Franklin-
Okay
... at number two.
This one, I, I feel like every single list has Aretha Franklin in the top five.
You know, there must be something that, uh-
And it's not, I think it's more so them trying to bow down to the legacy acts. But-
It could be
... Aretha Franklin is not that-R-E-S-P-E-C-T
Yeah.
Like, who, who cares?
So I don't know if you've seen number one yet. I haven't, and I'm trying to think who could possibly be left-
Who have w- who have we left out-
... that they-
... that is a, a, that is a legend.
That's a legend, and that's, they'd say the best vocalist of all time.
'Cause for me, it's like, okay, that makes sense they chose that person at number one.
You've seen it?
Yeah.
Okay.
I, I, we talked about this, uh, list yesterday.
Okay. I'm, I'm trying to think of who has not shown up on the list.
It's gotta be one of those big, like, uh, female vocalists, right? Like-
Not female.
Not female.
Should I give you a hint?
It, it better not be James Blunt.
Yeah, give me a hint.
Galileo.
Galileo.
See, I just think of the Puscifer song, and we already know that Maynard's up in, like, the 60s on this list. [laughs] Uh, give me another hint.
Uh. [laughs]
Oh, duh.
[laughs]
Duh. Uh, that one should be pretty obvious. And, eh, it's ... I, I would expect him definitely to be in the top five on a list like this. I don't know why I couldn't think of it.
I would expect him to be-
Freddie Mercury
... the, the greatest front man of all time.
Freddie Mercury.
Freddie Mercury. Absolutely.
That's, that's pretty fair. Trying to think if there's a better vocalist.
But knowing Consequence, I feel like they would've put, like, Lil Uzi Vert.
[laughs] No kidding. I'm kind of surprised that-
Kanye made the number f- number three.
[laughs]
Let's see what, uh ... Wait, hold on. What, who would you say are the top 10 vocalists of all time?
You asking ChatGPT?
Yeah.
All right.
No, I'm just texting my buddy, Dave. "What do you think?"
[laughs] Well, I don't know.
[laughs]
Of course, it tries to tell me, "There's no single correct," but here you go. Number one, Freddie Mercury, it chooses.
Okay.
It ... Oh, see, it's pulling that list from Consequence.
I hate that about ChatGPT.
It can l- it literally get, put Aretha Franklin, two; Whitney Houston, three; Robert Plant, four; Stevie Wonder, five; Mariah Carey, Elvis Presley, Chris Cornell, Frank Sinatra, and Beyoncé.
All right. It's a little bit different.
But where's, like, where's Chester Bennington? Where's Bruce Dickinson?
Yeah. Um, you would put both those guys ahead of, uh, many people on that list, except Tom Waits, the greatest vocalist of all time.
Or maybe DMX.
What's he building in there? Or DMX.
X gonna give it to ya. [upbeat music]
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