Ep. 156 - I Blew My Shot With a Goth Girl and Now I Have to Live With It - 03/12/2026
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Ep. 156 - I Blew My Shot With a Goth Girl and Now I Have to Live With It - 03/12/2026

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[upbeat music] The noon hour of Madness and Mayhem, the podcast.

So Victor Badflower just canceled the rest of their tour.

Lots of, uh, tour cancellations happening as of late. Uh, Badflower said there was illness, right?

Uh, yeah, he- the, the lead singer. Is, is his name Josh?

Ugh.

I think so.

Can't remember.

Uh, he was complaining about a, uh, sickness when they, uh, came to Salt Lake City-

Mm

... and he had to cut the set short.

Oh, crap.

I think they did a full show in Boise.

Oh.

But the rest of the tour, there was like eight shows left. They canceled the rest of it.

Wow.

Yeah.

Must be, uh, something pretty brutal if you're gonna cancel that many dates.

I think they're just, uh, they're just a little... What, what's the word I'm looking for? They-

Mentally under the weather?

No, they're just, uh, I think divas.

Divas.

Yeah.

Oh, okay.

I would say they're, they're one of the few rock bands where it's a gamble if you buy a ticket to their show.

Mm.

Kinda like if you buy a ticket to Morrissey. Did you see this?

Uh, no, I did not.

He canceled his concert due to sleep deprivation-

[laughs] What?

... caused by noisy hotel.

[laughs]

He said, "It will take me one year to recover, and that is an understatement." [laughs]

Wow, okay.

Send an email to Jade tomorrow, "Hey, I'm not coming into work. I'm just gonna..." Well, no, you're, you already, you're already gonna go down to Salt Lake City, so-

Yeah, I am

... maybe on Monday.

I am gonna get out a little bit early tomorrow. But yeah, for next week, call and be like, "Dude, I, I just didn't sleep very good this weekend due to my cats making a bunch of racket meowing."

It'll take me a-

"I need a, I need a w- a year off." [laughs]

[laughs] There you go. I wonder what would happen, 'cause I was honestly thinking about this, 'cause I was watching all these different MrBeast clips and there were, there were these contestants on MrBeast's videos talking to other podcasters about their experiences on these shows.

Mm-hmm.

And the one guy who spent a year trying to lose 100 pounds, and if he did it, then he would get, like, $300,000, $500,000, whatever it was.

Mm-hmm.

And I was thinking, I'm like, how do you tell your work that you're not gonna be there for a year to record a MrBeast video? But you can't say it, because you sign an NDA.

Yeah, kinda like with that, you know, Squid Game reality show. You had to take, like, months off or something.

Right.

Yeah. I... Who has the time to do that other than, uh... Or, or the money, other than people who live at home with their parents, or I, I guess are just rich. I don't know. [laughs] Rich already.

'Cause I think Jimmy pays for your rent and all of that.

Oh.

Like, you just tell him how, how much you have in bills-

Okay

... and he'll pay them for you.

But what about, yeah, keeping your job?

But what about, like, if I had to approach Jade and Kevin and be like, "Yeah, I'm taking a year off 'cause I'm, I'm doing a secret project"?

[laughs] Yeah, they're gonna be like, "All right. See ya, bro."

Yeah. "I, I'm gonna come back and my job's filled up."

Exactly. Yeah, that's it, how it would happen at most places, I would assume.

Well, 'cause we're in the radio business too, and I feel like that's even... You know, we can't have a afternoon just full of songs.

I mean, I can't think of any job where if you're like, "I need a year off," you know, that you can just come back. [laughs] You know? "I'm working on something secret." "Tell me what?" "No."

Yeah, I should Google search this real fast.

Yeah. Do-

What happens-

Type away

... no, MrBeast... What, what, what, how, how do I word this? Do I just say like,

what if-

How do people-

Oh, yeah

... get months off of work to do MrBeast projects or... I don't know. I'm, I'm assuming

they all live at home with their parents or they're already rich. Those are my guesses.

It says... Well, AI overview just says they take an unpaid leave of absence.

Okay.

Many a- uh, applicants negotiate with employers for extended time, time off, often without pay. Um, utilizing [laughs] PTO/vacation time.

[laughs] I guess I'm out on that one. [laughs]

Um, yeah, there's also, like, just them quitting their job because they see, they see themselves winning the Beast games and winning $5 million-

Ah

... and they never have to go back to working fast food ever again.

That's a pretty risky gamble.

No kidding.

I don't know if I'd just quit my job, like, "I'm gonna win." [laughs]

Right. Well, I mean, if you have one of those throwaway jobs, and I'm not trying to say-

Yeah

... I'm not trying to call them throwaway jobs, but, like, if you're an associate at a fast food restaurant here in the area.

No, you can probably get a similar job.

Right.

You know?

It's not like me trying to leave here and go someplace else or find another place to go to type of thing.

Yeah. I mean, it's gotten to be almost impossible to get a radio job. You know? Have fun in Alabama, Peaches.

[laughs] Yeah.

You know? Hope you like it there.

I saw Omaha, Nebraska had an opening, and I was like, okay, well, that's a-

Yeah

... that's a bigger city for that state-

[laughs]

... but I think that's the only, only thing to do. It's like, uh, their Boise, right?

Uh, yeah, yeah. I, I don't know exactly how big Omaha is. I mean, I know it's bigger than here.

I mean, isn't there Lincoln, Nebraska? Maybe that's the other city.

Hmm. I, I don't know what the biggest city in Nebraska is, 'cause I, I try to avoid Nebraska. [laughs]

Nobody pays attention. Uh, what is the biggest city in Nebraska? Omaha.

Omaha, and what's the population?

Uh, approximately 486,000 to 501,000 people.

That's pretty big. Wow, that's pretty big. N- I mean, okay, I guess our market, you know, with Pocatello, Rexburg, Idaho Falls, you know, and all those little towns in between, I think it's at about 350,000, something like that.

But we, but we're turning into Los Angeles, Victor.

Oh.

We're close to 30 million.

[laughs] Jeez.

That's what it is.

Let's not even get started on that crap again. [upbeat music]

[laughs] Going to the advice subreddit once again on the noon hour of Madness and Mayhem. I was reading off some of the headlines off the air right before we hopped on the air, uh, with Victor. I saw here, "I think my neighbor is dead."

"I think my neighbor is dead." Let me see if I can find that, that post here, 'cause-

This was posted a month ago.

Oh, okay. What do you have it sorted by?

Um, I think popularity.

Popularity.

No, not, no, not necessarily, because that one has 15,000 up votes. The one above it that was posted two hours ago has 31 up votes, and it's talking about how, um, his girlfriend of nearly two years cheated on him.

Ah. You know, and once you click on one of those, then you just get pummeled with all these posts about people in terrible relationships and these really sad stories. Hate that about Reddit.

All I'm getting right now are a bunch of ugly dudes going, "How can I improve my look?"

[laughs]

And there's legitimate advice in those, uh, comments sections. I mean, if you... Hey, if you wanna improve your face-Go there.

All right, scroll up to the very top, Peaches. I'm very curious how, how you have this sorted.

Uh, best.

Best?

Just best.

Just best.

Yeah.

Okay, let me click on that and see if I can find ... I wanna see what's up with the guy who thinks his neighbor was dead. What is that?

I can read it here.

Yeah, read it.

"I live in an apartment building, and a week ago they put paper in our doors for something, uh, irrelevant to the story. It was put in there in a way that when you open the door, it would fall out. Everyone else in the building has gotten the paper except for the apartment next to mine. We've been monitoring it, and the TV is on 24/7. Even at 2:00 and 4:00 AM, when we checked, it's still on. Um, we've knocked on the door for, to no answer. We're on the first floor, and I've tried looking in windows but saw nothing. Don't know if that's good or bad. What makes this so worrying is that the lady that lives there is on oxygen. I've seen her before, and I can hear the oxygen machine, and sometimes my cat gets out and, uh, sits or stands in front of that door. Me and my sister think he knows something we don't. Uh, we've tried contacting the building manager, but she won't respond. What do we do? Are we being too paranoid? I've seen on shows and heard stories about people dying in their houses and rotting in there while mail piled up outside."

Yeah. Okay, here's what you do. You call the police-

[laughs]

-to do a welfare check. They're farting around for days, listening to the TV in the middle of the ni- How many days have they been [laughs] sitting there going, "Is the neighbor dead?" You know, first time you were like, "It could be possible," that's when you call in a welfare check with the police. Who are these people?

Well, the final update. I, I was scrolling down more here as you were speaking. Uh, "She's completely okay."

Okay. [laughs]

"She said she's just old and has no reason to leave her house."

[laughs]

"I'm glad I get to give a good update, and this can stop eating me away at night, thinking she's just dead."

Okay.

And I, I've seen that story before about how in Florida, in retirement homes-

Mm-hmm

... people can die in those rooms, and nobody checks in on them, and next thing you know, they're melting through the floor-

Mm-hmm

... and the person below them is, you know, experiencing a Slayer song.

[laughs]

Raining blood! [laughs]

That's right, dude. Yeah, I've seen some pretty wild ones where, like, they found mummified people 'cause they'd been in their places for so long. Like, yeah, if you're unsure about a neighbor or something, just call the cops and be like, "Hey, it seems kinda weird. Can you guys go scope it out?" They'll, they'll go over.

Now, here's the thing. Would you, would you potentially, like, poke around their apartment if they're dead?

[laughs] Probably. I, I-

See if there's any good valuables in there.

[laughs]

[laughs] If, if they're-

What kind of books you guys got-

Yeah, yeah, yeah

... floating around here?

Any first edition Stephen King books before, uh, I just, you know, magically call the police and be like, "Hey, um, I did notice this dead person, uh, this dead neighbor of mine, and there's a few things missing. I think someone broke in and stole this crap." [laughs]

[laughs] Yeah, note, if, uh, you're getting really old, like, you should get rid of all of your crappy books that no one's gonna wanna buy. Nothing more aggravating than going to an estate sale and being like, "Oh, they've got books," and it's like, these should be in a dumpster. Nobody would even [laughs] buy these at a thrift store.

What did I just-

What is this crap?

I was reading about this one lady on Extreme Cheapskates that she goes to these, uh ... She goes, she goes to the houses of people who'd, have just died.

Mm-hmm.

And then she'll be like, "Hey, I ..." She'll talk to the family and be like-

[laughs]

... "Hey, can I buy their clothes?"

[laughs] Wow.

And so she can wear them. And I'm like, well, it's not like they're not gonna ... It's not like the ... Anyone else is gonna wear them afterwards, I don't think.

Yeah, no. I mean, normally you'd, uh, either try to do an estate sale or donate them to a thrift store, I suppose.

So that means they were gonna sell them to somebody else.

Yeah.

So it's not necessarily all that morbid, I don't think.

No. Yeah, I mean, if ... Not really. I mean-

I think I bought a dead guy's jacket on Facebook Marketplace one time. I think I still have it.

I mean, I've bought dead people's stuff. I don't know about clothes, but I've certainly went to an estate sale and left with stuff.

Yeah.

You know?

Might as well.

Yeah. So, um-

But it's a good use. I mean, and when my parents, um, pass away, I feel like I'm gonna inherit all those, uh, DVDs and CDs in that case from the-

Mm-hmm

... that, that one thing that people bought for, like, a penny back in the day, the BMG-

[laughs] Oh, yeah, dude. That was great

... I get that whole cabinet at my parents' place.

[laughs]

Can't wait to collect their crap.

Yeah. Yeah, thankfully my parents didn't hold on to a lot of crap, so getting rid of their stuff wasn't too bad. Me, I've been trying to clear out the junk over the years, but, you know, y- you know how I am with those books, dude. That's a, that's gonna be a nightmare for my kids. Have fun.

[laughs] [upbeat music] So when in doubt, we go to, uh, r/advice or-

[laughs]

... r/confession on Reddit. And some of these, uh, they're not radio appropriate, but they are quite funny, like the one that Victor just told me off the air about some guy's mom-

[laughs] Yeah

... getting excited.

[laughs] That, that one was a little bit, little bit bizarre, and I think that might have been a troll post.

It, it would have to be, right?

I would hope so.

Well, maybe not if, like, you're in, uh, Arkansas.

[laughs]

[laughs]

But these are, these are cracking me up, like the one you brought up about the guy who says, "I got approached by a goth girl, but I was too high." He says, "I sp- [laughs] I spend an insane amount of time thinking about goth girls."

[laughs]

"For years I dreamed of them."

All right, Jade.

[laughs]

[laughs]

"A couple months ago I was in a pub, and a beautiful goth girl actually approached me. She even invited me to a party with her friends and introduced me in a super lovely way that I rarely experience in my life. In reality, though, I was so high I started [laughs] ignoring her-"

[laughs]

"... totally and went drinking shots with other losers. I'm not a ... It's not a big thing, but at least once a day I think about it, and I know it'll never happen again." [laughs]

I l- I love the top reply. "Well, if there was ever a sign to turn your life around, that's it right there."

Yeah, quit getting high. [laughs]

"Imagine if it was actually just a hallucination you, you, you, you manifested as true," another person said.

[laughs] Goth girls, man.

Ever think about goth boys? [laughs] Somebody wrote.

[laughs] Dude, yeah, this subreddit can be so funny. Um-

This reminds me of the, uh, the, uh, missed connections that list on, uh, Craigslist.

Oh, dude, we used to do a weekly feature on missed connections, and they were so funny, especially the ones that were men for men. Dude, we would read through those, me and Jade and Brad, and just laugh. They were so funny. 'Cause they were local.Yeah. [laughs] So that added even m- uh, more of a funny angle to it. Yeah, if you, if you need to kill time, r/confession can be, uh, can be pretty good.

Well, well-

For sure

... well let's ask, uh, ChatGPT. What, w- what's a good response to this post on r/confession?

[laughs] Are you gonna just copy and paste his whole thing?

Oh, yeah.

[laughs] Ah, goth girls.

Here are a few good reply styles you could post on r/confession depending on the tone you want.

[laughs]

You could do encouraging/wholesome. Honestly, the fact that it happened once means it can happen again. You didn't miss your only shot at life.

[laughs]

You just had bad timing that night. Learn from it, and next time a goth girl talks to you, maybe skip the shots and actually hang out with her.

[laughs] Quit being so high.

I could do light humor. The lesson here is simple. W- when a goth girl approaches you, put the shots down and pay attention. Consider it a practice run.

[laughs]

Reassuring. You're acting like this was your one cosmic opportunity. It wasn't. If someone approached you once, it means you're approachable. Next time you'll handle it better.

There you go.

I mean, you might as well just go to, what band has the most emo fan base?

[laughs] There you go. And you go to their show. Go to a Nine Inch Nails concert. You wanna see some goth girls, go to Nine Inch Nails tomorrow night [laughs] in Salt Lake City. There will be goth girls all over the place.

It depends on what kind of, uh, goth girl you want. Like, do you want...

I'd say the type that hang out at a Nine Inch Nails show.

Because they might be freaks, you know. They hear that song Closer, and it's like-

Mm-hmm

... "Oh, yeah, that's, that's what I like."

Yeah, they... 'Cause, you know, if their musical taste is more Nine Inch Nails, then, you know, I think you're looking at emo bands, and they-

Like My Chemical Romance, I see right here, Fall Out Boy, uh-

But they're not gonna have goth fans.

No.

They're gonna have emo fans, which is a different look.

Oh, you're right. You're right.

Yeah.

Okay.

Like, you know, Type O Negative doesn't play shows anymore. Who... What, what other goth bands are around? I think you're stuck with... Uh, you know-

[laughs]

... Nine Inch Nails isn't really goth, but I know the g- the goth c- crowd likes them.

I looked it up. The Cure [laughs] was the first one that popped up.

Okay, there you go. They-

But that's if you want an older E- uh, gothic person.

Hey.

You know, goth, goth girl. Yeah.

Hey, you know, don't, don't doubt them older ladies, everybody. Come on now.

No, I'll put modern. Modern E- uh, goth bands.

I don't know what there are any.

Not classics. Because I see Type O Negative. I see... Is it Sushi and the Banshees?

You know-

Siouxsie and the Banshees?

It... I'm guessing this guy is into metal girls, girls that wear black clothes-

All right

... have black hair, tattoo. 'Cause g-

Go, go-

... goth isn't really much of a thing anymore.

You know what? If this guy's here in the area, Behemoth, uh, Deicide-

[laughs]

... and a couple of other bands are gonna be in Salt Lake City. Just go there.

Uh, d... I don't know, Peaches. I think that's gonna be a lot of, uh, you know, battle jacket, vest-wearing, long-haired-

Fat dudes

... old dudes. [laughs]

[laughs]

I don't think you're gonna find a lot of chicks at that one. You gotta go to-

I don't know. There's been a lot of women at the, uh, Lorna Shore shows.

Yeah. Th- but Lorna Shore's a little bit different than Behemoth and, uh, you know, Deicide and stuff. Uh, you could go to probably a Sleep Token show. I bet you'd find some goth-looking girls. Again, I think this guy w- he's into metal chicks, chicks that wear black clothes, have tattoos, you know, maybe some piercings, dark hair.

Oh, I'm looking at our concert calendar. [laughs]

[laughs]

And I see Black Veil Brides. What about them?

Uh, you might find some, uh, that have that look, you know. But again, if you want a, an actual-

Oh

... goth girl, you probably do have to go to, uh, The Cure.

You go to Vanna.

Vanna?

Vanna with Deadlands, Red Hook, and, uh, Cloudy something, Cloudy Field. Yeah, go to the, the Lady in Red tour.

Yeah, I think that's, again, gonna be a bunch of dudes. [laughs]

A bunch of old dudes going, "Oh, yeah."

Exactly. [laughs]

"I like her with the red hair."

Yeah. [upbeat music]

All right, so Victor, there's this girl by the name of, uh, I think Erika Leeann, who's on SiriusXM Octane.

Okay.

Yeah, Erika Leeann. She has 68,000 followers on Facebook alone.

Okay.

She has a whole lot more on TikTok, a whole lot more on Instagram.

Okay.

And, uh, I think the reason why... I, I'm not gonna insult her. I, I'm trying my best to say this lightly. I think the reason why she was hired as a DJ on SiriusXM is because she already had a fan base.

Mm-hmm.

She's a hot girl.

Mm-hmm.

And she, uh... What's it called? She likes rock and metal, and she will attract that, uh, that, that type of like what we just talked about with Vanna, that old man to drool over, or the old man drooling over her audience.

You could be right, Peaches. You could be right. Generally, built-in following, that gets you a, a long ways nowadays, whether or not you deserve, uh, some of the things you get out of it.

I mean, I've never actually heard her talk. She might be an awesome radio DJ.

She might be.

But I've only ever seen her post videos of her in the car wearing a low-cut top.

[laughs]

And she, she... O- obviously, the hot girl effect does come into play on social media.

Yeah.

Like, their stuff gets boosted to the top, because people will stop scrolling and watch it, because they're like, "Oh." They're so infatuated by her type of thing.

Oh, and my Facebook feed is constantly feeding me these videos of, like, I don't know, girls just standing around dancing or something. And I'm like, "I've never clicked like on any of these. Why do you keep showing me them?" [laughs]

It's because you're a guy in his 40s.

[laughs] I, I guess so.

And you wanna have that nice digital escape from, you know, Becca be like, "Look at these other women."

Oh, geez.

[laughs]

So yeah, I've got a nice-looking woman to look at b- any day.

Becca, you're not dancing like these women online.

Look at this video.

Do better. [laughs]

[laughs] She'd be so mad. Can you dance like this, Horvy?

Drop the farm machine and start twerking. [laughs]

Yeah, stop making me laugh. It's time to dance. [laughs]

Uh, so but she posts these videos of, like, female-fronted bands.

Okay.

The Americas edition. And then she'll lip sync to, like, 10 different clips of 10 different bands' songs.

Okay.

And then she'll just do, like... Th- th- th- she'll... That's her whole thing.

Okay.

Metal rock albums released in 2026 so far. Megadeth, Megadeth. And it shows, yeah, it shows her staring in the camera, lip syncing. You're supposed to find her attractive.

Ooh.

Now, what if you decided to do the same thing, Victor?

Maybe I should

Well, what would happen?

It'd be so embarrassing.

[laughs] You'd get in your truck in the driver's seat and just-

Oh, dude, when I see dudes lip-syncing to songs on, on social media, it does make me just cringe hard. And if it was me, it'd be ... Oh, I'd, I'd be so embarrassed at myself. Maybe I should do it. [laughs] Just to be stupid.

You do it in the parking lot here with your-

No

... truck facing Sunnyside.

Yes.

So that way when people drive by, they can see you with your phone-

... propped up right there on the, on the dashboard and you're just like, like, you know, all hand motions and everything.

[laughs]

Oh, yeah. You gotta get the hand motions in there. You gotta put in a ... You gotta make it a show. You know, you gotta put in the effort. So-

Maybe you should make your, uh, jacket, uh, unzipped a little bit to reveal the cleave.

Just pull the-

[laughs]

... hoodie down a little bit. Look at that, there's some hair.

No, better yet, dress up as Victoria Rose again.

[laughs] Oh, and then-

And then do it

... make my lip sync videos. [laughs]

[laughs]

That would ... Now, that would be funny. That would be funny, and I'd probably get some hate comments.

Of course.

[laughs] Oh, yeah.

Look, there's that liberal invading Idaho.

This is what the l- the left wants. [laughs]

Br- bringing his

gender-switching views.

[laughs]

Keep my state red.

Oh, it just makes me laugh to put a, you know, put on a wig.

It's funny Victor likes ketchup 'cause that, that stuff's red unlike him.

[laughs]

I don't know.

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