[instrumental music plays] The noon hour of madness and mayhem, the podcast.
All right, Peaches, how about you do the whole show, I'll go hide in my office and, uh, take a nap? Sound like a plan?
Uh, you wanna hear something depressing?
Depressing?
Yeah.
Yeah, I love depressing stuff.
Did you look up the meaning behind, uh, the W- The Winter Wonderland Christmas song?
No.
About how, like, he wrote it when he was in th- the hospital battling tuberculosis?
Like Arthur Morgan?
Yeah.
Oh, no! [laughs]
He wrote it, uh, because he, he was looking out the window and he saw kids playing in the snow, and he realized, "Hey, I'm never gonna do that again 'cause I'm gonna die in here."
Geez. [laughs]
And he wrote it in 1934.
I, I wonder what other Christmas songs have a dark meaning behind them? I mean, we know The Christmas Shoes is not, [laughs] not very pleasant. Let's see, dark Christmas songs. Okay, I mean, Grandma Got Run Over by a Reindeer doesn't count. Yeah.
Have you seen that, uh, animated movie?
Um, Grandma Got Ran Over by a Reindeer? I, I might have when I was younger. Possibly. I don't know, though.
I've seen bits and pieces, but the whole overall theme is kind of just creepy to me.
It's a, it's a weird song. The Grandma Got Killed By Santa.
Like, who thought of that idea? Who said, "You know what? Let's make a whole song about how grandma got killed by Santa-"
Well, and there's the-
"... with one of his magical reindeer."
There's the John Denver classic, Daddy, Please Don't Come Home Drunk This Christmas.
That's true.
You know, that's a fun one. All right, this list is the most disturbing Christmas songs of all time. I think you and I were talking about this one off air one day, Santa Baby. Was that you and me talking about that?
I, I, I was talking to you about that because it's so weird how people are just, you know, uh, m- making Santa to be, like, this, uh, sexy guy.
Yeah.
Like, "Oh, Santa, come here." You know, that type of thing.
Hey, Santa.
Like... Yeah, yeah.
Yeah. I mean, I'm all down for ladies-
Unless they're-
... you know, uh, making it seem like old guys with a dad bod are pretty hot.
Well, I think what they're trying to, trying to imply is it's Santa... It's, like, their husband dressed up as Santa-
Oh. I mean, it could be
... type of thing. I don't know.
Let's see. Um, I'll Be Home For Christmas. Everybody's heard that Christmas classic. I don't know why I have the Superman music going in the background either, everybody. Just deal with it. But apparently the lyrics are from the perspective of a World War II soldier writing a letter home and, uh, you know, he's thinking about how nice it would be to be with his family on Christmas Eve. But-
But then he dies mid-battle.
Uh, I don't know if he dies, but he says, "I'll be home for Christmas, if only in my dreams." So he's, you know, sitting in a, a trench somewhere dodging bullets and, uh, yeah. Pre- pretty dark song. Uh, let's see. What else do we have here?
Okay. I've never heard of this song. Christmas With Satan. Have you heard of that classic, Peaches?
[laughs]
I've never heard of that one.
All right, I'm looking this one up.
Um, yeah. I, I would assume it's a play on, you know, Santa. But in- instead it's Christmas with Satan. It's by James Chance. Hmm.
I thought it said James White.
I got James Chance.
I have James White and-
Oh, AKA James White. Okay. So he, he goes by-
Do you see the name of
the, the rest of the band? [laughs]
Uh, yes.
[laughs]
[laughs] I mean, it's not an inappropriate word, but no, no, I'm not gonna-
It's implying something that you're like, "Oh."
Yeah. Then they of course mention, uh, Grandma Got Run Over by a Reindeer. Oh, I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus. That one's, uh, I guess bothersome to the kids, 'cause, you know, Daddy might've got drunk this Christmas and fell asleep under the Christmas tree in the John Denver song, then Mommy's kissing Santa.
I, I'm reading the lyrics to that Christmas with Satan.
Are they pretty bad?
It, it's awful.
Yeah?
It, it, it's one guy trying to be funny.
Okay, okay. Uh-
And trying to be dark with the whole thing.
Now, Baby It's Cold Outside, people have talked about that one.
I, I personally see no issue with that song.
You would see no issue with, uh, drugging somebody to get 'em to stay at your house, Peaches? [laughs] That's what they say in the song. [laughs]
Remember the year it came out and everyone was like, "Well, WAP is the most trend... Is like the, the number one trending pop song"? Remember that?
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
The, those battling that track?
Yes.
He had one crowd saying Baby It's Cold Outside should be banned and he had the other crowd saying, "Well, WAP is the number one pop song right now."
But, but WAP's not, uh,
not bad in my opinion.
It's incredibly vulgar and-
It's vulgar?
... most helicopter parents would be like, "[gasps] Get that away from my child."
Yeah, I mean, it's vulgar but it, it doesn't imply that you put something in someone's drink. It's not a... You know, the Bill Cosby Christmas song.
Yeah, no, thank you.
[laughs]
I don't want that either.
They did name the most disturbing Christmas song as The Christmas Shoes, which it is-
It is awful.
It is awful, it's disturbing, and it's not... Yeah, it's not good. It's a, it's a lousy song, too. And for some reason country radio stations play it. I gave up fighting with Justin about this one and was like, "Just go ahead. Just put it in with-"
Wh- why is it then-
"... your hot Christmas music."
Like, he's-
It doesn't even sound like country music.
Why is it that he gets so much leeway when it comes to the library, but for me it's like, you know, if I even dare say anything? [laughs]
I give you... What are you talking about?
Like, I, like, you-
You have plenty of leeway. Wha- what do you wanna put in the, the playlist, Peaches?
Uh, we'll... No, we'll talk about that off the air.
No, let's talk about it on air. We'll, we'll do it for the next break, 'cause I'm curious now and I'll, I'll tell you why. I get... Listen, I give people, like, a song or two. I'm pretty strict.[Christmas music] Justin doesn't get a lot of leeway, you know? And I force him to, you know, sit there and listen to country rap songs that he don't like, and that oil money song. I'm like, "No, we're playing it." But he- he's passionate about Christmas. And, you know, country Christmas songs are awful. They're, like, really not good.
Why even battle Classy, though? That's the thing. Like, let Classy be the Christmas music station.
'Cause we don't really play country Christmas on Classy. And, you know, the country format, you know, you got the whole family angle to it, and-
I don't know
... 'Merica and a lot of religious songs. So, you know, a song or two an hour, you know. If, if they wanted to go all country Christmas, no way.
You had me curious now, 'cause then you look at the lyrics to that baby, It's Cold Outside.
Yeah, it's like, "What's in this drink?" [laughs] You know?
It's, it's disturbing.
He's like, "Don't leave, [laughs] just drink this."
I thought it was just like, "Don't leave because it's cold outside."
No.
And that, that's about it.
No. There's a line about, you, you know, the-
'Cause they sing it in Elf and everything.
In Elf?
Yeah.
Hmm.
Remember when, when she-
They probably leave that line out.
N- no, no kidding. But she's in the shower and he's, like, singing along.
Hmm. Well, that could be a, a little bit of adult innuendo-
Yeah, maybe
... you know, for that movie.
Yeah.
That goes over the heads of the children.
Oh, Buddy the Elf.
[laughs] Good old Buddy the Elf, dirty Buddy the Elf.
[laughs]
It's the noon ou- ... [babbles]
[clears throat]
Let's try that again. Geez. The noon hour of madness and mayhem. We're talking music, Peaches.
Oh, sure.
Yeah. Well, we talked a little bit about disturbing Christmas songs, but in the course of that conversation-
Yeah. B- b-
... you, you mentioned that you feel like I give Justin more leeway with the playlist than you. And I don't think that's true.
Well, because I feel like every single time you, you bring up a song for the Hawk, he, he's like, "No, I don't wanna play that." B- but it's this-
Yeah, but then he has to play it anyway.
Uh-
[laughs] There was only one song that, uh, you know, due to different management at the time, we did not play. That was Beyonce. But-
But we should've been playing that.
We should've been. And, uh, ever since then, I've put a foot down and be like, "No. We're, we're playing it." And we did end up playing some Beyonce.
Well, you would think that you're, you're the music director, and, you know, people have their other various duties that they should be doing.
Yeah. Well, if th- a- absolutely. And I, you know, ask all the DJ's to keep me a list of music that I should take a look at and things, but, you know, uh, you've got Peaches' Pick of the Day where you get to play whatever you want.
Yeah.
You know?
It's fun.
Um, and, uh, I ... Have I ever been like, "No!" on a-
N- no
... on a song? I don't think so. So, I was just curious what other ... What, what songs do you think we should be playing that I said no?
Oh, no. Not songs we should be playing. I just think the whole, like, overabundance of the late '90s, early 2000's grunge and alternative.
Oh. Yeah.
I just th- ... I feel like it's so overplayed everywhere-
Yeah
... that we should be doing less of it, type thing.
Yeah, but you know-
'Cause like, the Red Hot Chili Peppers, I mean, everyone's heard those songs.
It all-
Same with Audioslave. Same with Sound Garden. Same with Rage Against the Machine. Same with Pearl Jam. I've never heard w- somebody ever say, "Wow, I got ... I ... Pearl Jam, Better Man? I love that song."
[laughs] You'd be surprised, Peaches. [laughs] Everybody's different. Our old, uh, what, what was it? Uh, our old business manager, Ryan, he, uh, loved Pearl Jam and was always very excited when we would play it. Piper Finney, huge Pearl Jam fan. Pearl Jam, e- especially in this region too, uh, very, very popular. They play shows in Missoula and, uh, sell out, like, you know, I think ... Do they have some kind of a stadium there or something? They ... Pearl Jam, you know, I'm not a Pearl Jam guy, but I probably don't dig, like, 90% of what we play.
Yeah, me neither. [laughs]
[laughs] You know?
Uh, even Nirvana to me, just way too overplayed.
See, and-
I do agree with people that Nirvana's overplayed everywhere in the country.
Well, they're one of the biggest rock bands of all time, and, uh, you know, for age demographics, you know how that breaks down. When you're looking at the age demographics, you gotta play the stuff that, uh, people in their 40s grew up on in high school, 'cause most people don't listen to new music. So, you play the most popular stuff from those times, it's all of those bands. You know, me, I'm a, you know, on the younger end of 40, so I tend to lean more toward, you know,
some of the later '90s stuff. But, I, I don't know. I mean, I, I think, uh, Sound Garden and Alice in Chains, I, I like them better than, uh, Nirvana. You know? S- Sound Garden's great. They're like grade A, top-tier music. But, you know, e- everybody's into different things, so we go for the, the wide variety. You know? If you look at the Hawk, you know, I probably like 1% of what's played over there.
[laughs]
[laughs] Like, to me, some of the worst music in country music is the '90s country music. It's so bad. It's terrible. But people say it was, like, the best era for country music, and it has that terrible ... Y- you know, like '90s pop music has a terrible sound to it?
I never understood the, the want to have country music. I just never understood the whole genre. Like, I just, like, why would I care?
I like-
It's the same four stuff.
I like some of it. You know?
It's the same, like, America, beer, truck, woman.
Yeah. You know, and that's, like, the pop country stuff. I l- you know, I tend to like the darker stuff, the my life is miserable, sad cowboy.
And even that gets annoying too.
Yeah. And it d- it depends. It's gotta be th- the right artist and the right sound, you know? I like some Sturgill Simpson and some Tyler Childers and-Some Colter Wall. I like his older stuff better.
Okay, talk about boring, Colter Wall.
See, eh, eh-
The Devil Wears a Suit and Tie.
I know, I like that song. I think it's a good one, but once he started going more old school Western, I was like, "Hmm, can you bring back the songs about, like, you know, killing people and stuff?"
Zach Bryan has to be the most boring artist I have ever heard too.
See, and I liked, I like Zach Bryan quite a bit.
It's, it's just some like jerk neck, around the campfire with a guitar. It's like, "Dude, shut up. We're roasting marshmallows."
[laughs]
"Put the guitar away."
But people like that stuff.
Pink skies, like, just, stop.
That guy is one of the biggest artists in the world. You know, he's massive, massive.
So is Garth Brooks, but he sucks too.
I, I would... Yeah, I listen to, uh, Zach Bryan over Garth Brooks any day. Garth Brooks had like one good song.
I saw, I saw some video of Garth Brooks like with the, the fishing wire on him, and he's getting flown around the stadium. How terrifying is that? You see some chubby redneck flying towards you.
[laughs]
Aah! [laughs] [instrumental music plays]
Well, earlier, Peaches, we were talking about disturbing Christmas songs, and it made me wonder if there's other songs out there that maybe people don't know are depressing just in general. Uh, so I pulled up another list from Business Insider. You know [laughs] that they're a great source for music news. And, um-
I wonder which writer of theirs was like, "You know what? I need to put out this music article."
[laughs] I guess anything for clicks, right?
Yeah.
Business Insider. So, some of... I guess all these songs have a, uh, darker meaning than it may appear.
I know Pumped Up Kicks, Foster the People.
Yeah, what's that one about?
It's about a school shooter.
Oh, geez.
Like, outrun my gun. That's the whole point.
Oh, that's right, that's right. See, I, I don't pay attention to lyrics a lot, so sometimes stuff will go right over my head. Like, is it, uh-
Oh, oh-
Possum Kingdom? Or-
Oh, yeah.
Is it, isn't that about, uh, somebody murdering somebody?
Probably.
You know? Is that the one that goes, you know, "Down by the boat house, I'll show you my dark secret." Or is that a different song? Uh.
I'm not really familiar with that track.
Okay, uh, I mean, we play it, but-
I know we do, but I just don't listen to that late '90s, early 2000s crap.
Yeah, Peaches, Peaches not down with that, that era of music. Um, Delilah by Tom Jones. Are you familiar with that song? I'm gonna see if it's in our system here. The music library is currently loading, but apparently, uh, this song tells the story of a man stabbing his girlfriend to death. Yeah. Um, I, I gotta hear the vibe of this, 'cause you know Tom Jones, he's like a Vegas crooner type sound. It's probably upbeat with brass instruments in the background.
I, I just immediately thought of Hey There Delilah from Plain White T's and-
Yeah.
... I'm gonna stab you with a knife. [laughs] Just whoa.
Let's see. Does not look like we've got that in the system here. Delilah, did I spell it right? D-I-L-I-L. Yeah.
D- What'd you say?
D-I-L... D-E-L-I-L. Sorry, I think I did say D-
Delilah?
D-I-L-I-L. But yeah, uh, one of the lyrics is, "She stood there laughing. I felt the knife in my hand, and she laughed no more." Well, let's move on to the next one since we don't have that in our system.
I think Tom Jones killed someone.
[laughs] He might have. Uh, let's see here. 99 Luftballons.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's a song about, uh, uh, war, right? The Cold War?
Mm-hmm.
Okay, so th- that's not super dark. Hotel California.
Uh, yeah, definitely.
Uh, what, what do people say? It's, uh-
It's something like you can, you can always check in but you can never leave.
Yeah, Don Henley says it's basically a song about the dark underbelly of the American dream and about excess in America. Lot of people thought it was about someone dying, you know, and, uh, going, going down south, Peaches. Uh, Under the Bridge is... Th- that one I think most people would know is a pretty dark song when you listen to the lyrics. It's even got a, a down, down tone, you know? These ones don't seem that bad. They did-
I was gonna say, this kind of sucks.
They, they did mention Pumped Up Kicks. Now, Hey Yeah,
why, why is that a, uh,
depressing song? Just 'cause it's, uh, a sad take on the state of modern day relationships? That would be like every country song. My heart's broken. Hmm. Yeah, I, I would think these could... They, they could find a worse list. This is what happens when, uh, Business Insider makes a list of disturbing songs.
They put out the most generic list of all time just for you to be like, "Wow, okay, th- that was a waste of my 10 minutes."
Yeah. What, what the heck, Business Insider?
Same for the listeners for this break.
Well, well,
whatever.
This is the noon hour of madness and mayhem. Peaches and I are having a great time with content on this show today. It's been a fun week of content. Yeah.
It's only gonna get worse because, you know, all the, the, the prep sites shut down, all the major cities, all the major markets. The radio shows all leave for the winter and then they come back like mid-January.
Yeah, yeah. We, we don't have that luxury here, and-
I leave mid-January to, [laughs] to go back home.
[laughs] That's, that's why my kids are coming soon. They're... Well, they're already in town 'cause, you know, the flights are way cheaper if you go outside of the actual holiday. But some people, you know, think you gotta celebrate during the actual, you know, days that the holidays happen. I think you should be able to celebrate whenever you want, other than the fact that now I'm trying to rush, set up Christmas decorations, and-
I think we should make it to where... Uh, people are gonna hate to hear this, but we should have at least a few places open on holidays just because there was... Like me last year when, uh, uh, Thanksgiving came around and I had nowhere to go, so I finally found a, uh, Carl's Jr. that was open-
Good
... and just ate a burger [laughs] that day.
Yeah, well, this year on Thanksgiving, uh, because we ended up being sick, um, thankfully... Well, I, I had gotten better by that point, but Winco was open till 3:00.... so I was able to bomb over and get some stuff to make a Thanksgiving dinner. And, uh, yeah, there, there are some places that have to be open. You know, gas station, you know, those places are usually open.
True.
So, yeah, uh, you gotta feel bad somewhat for people who have to work on the holidays. But, like you and me, we know Fourth of July, it's all hands on deck; we're working. You know, we- we don't get that day off.
I mean, who knows about next year, really?
Who knows, who knows? Uh, we'll, we'll just have to wait and see. I haven't heard our Fourth of July plans yet. But, uh
... [laughs]
Where were we going with this?
I- I don't know. We just kind of started talking. I- I had been looking at a post online that made me laugh right before we jumped on, uh, where a woman posted on Reddit that she was told by her coworker, a man, that she smelled edible.
[laughs] So f- it's-
I can smell you.
You smell edible. That, that's a ... It's a weird line. And so she got a little bit disturbed by it and then came back and he was like, "Hey," you know, "don't be offended. I didn't mean it in a suggestive way." You know? And, uh, "You're just overthinking it." [laughs] What- what- what if someone walked up to you and were like, "Peaches, you smell edible."
I can, I can see what that guy looks like-
[laughs]
... without even seeing a picture. Wears the Alpha Wolf T-shirt-
[laughs]
... has the glasses, has the greasy hair that's, like, down to his neck.
Dude, I saw a post on Facebook today where some, one of my Facebook friends posted, "I'm so sick of seeing people out and about with greasy hair."
I saw that too!
Did you see that post? [laughs]
Yeah! [laughs]
I don't know if it was, like, for real or, you know, if they were just trying to be funny, 'cause-
Ever since they started getting-
... it made me laugh. I was like-
... I started getting added by listeners on Facebook. I started getting, like, all these different posts from those people that were like, "Screw you." Then they put the person's name-
Yeah!
... and there was all this relationship drama. I'm like, "Dude, take this off Facebook."
[laughs]
"You look dumb."
Dude, I love seeing, uh, Facebook drama like that, you know?
That or they put some, like, stupid message, like, "Well, I guess it's over."
Or it
And then all the comments are like, "We're here for you."
Or they'll screenshot and show their full, like, text message interactions with somebody.
Oh, that's great. Yeah.
[laughs] Look! What ... I can't believe this piece of crap. Tag him. Said, "Screw you."
I should upload all my text conversations with my mom. "Hey, there's a present at your front door." "Okay, thanks."
[laughs]
No- nothing really to care, nothing really to, you know.
Yeah, but that might make people laugh and feel good, 'cause most of the time it's just constant negativity. But the greasy hair post did make me laugh. [laughs] It was just like, are there ... Is this a major problem?
I guess it was a major thought for that person to the point where they felt like they needed to post it.
Yeah.
And, and i- it's like,
there's, there's greasy haired people out there, you know? So what?
And that, but they, they might just have naturally greasy hair. You know? Everybody has a different kind of hair. Some people's hair just kind of might look greasy.
[laughs]
It could be clean. [laughs] You know?
This is so stupid. I think ... Could you imagine?
[laughs]
I start, I start uploading my thoughts to my Facebook.
Just Peaches' random thoughts. Uh, well, the ones you say to me sometimes, don't post those.
Oh, that's what I'm saying. Like-
[laughs]
... my Facebook would go off the rails. [jazz music plays]
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